Poilian says no QB worthy of #1. Chiefs can find one later

[RyFo18]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

If he REALLY coached up Kolb, he wouldn't have traded him. You don't trade franchise QBs. Andy "QB guru" Reid DIDN'T THINK KOLB WAS GOOD ENOUGH.

Period, end of story.

It's not end of story. He coached up Kolb, and then Kolb gets hurt. Vick lights it up, they pay him to be the franchise QB. Then they trade Kolb b/c they can't afford 2 franchise QBs.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by RyFo18

It's not end of story. He coached up Kolb, and then Kolb gets hurt. Vick lights it up, they pay him to be the franchise QB. Then they trade Kolb b/c they can't afford 2 franchise QBs.

Kolb was never a franchise QB.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Kolb was never a franchise QB.

Exactly. Kolb was playing like shit in that first game. after the McNabb trade. Reid should consider himself very lucky that he got injured so quickly and Vick came in.

[RyFo18]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Kolb was never a franchise QB.

That's not true at all. He was the future of the Eagles in 2010. He started the first game and got hurt. Vick played weeks 2-4 and then they brought Kolb back in. He started until week 9, when he w againas then injured. Week 10 was the week Vick absolutely destroyed the Redskins, and then Vick never let go of the job.

Spare me the "he was never a franchise QB" because that was exactly what Philly had planned for him. He just got unlucky with injuries and the next guy up made the most of his opportunity. Just like Alex Smith/Kaepernick.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by RyFo18

That's not true at all. He was the future of the Eagles in 2010. He started the first game and got hurt. Vick played weeks 2-4 and then they brought Kolb back in. He started until week 9, when he w againas then injured. Week 10 was the week Vick absolutely destroyed the Redskins, and then Vick never let go of the job.

Spare me the "he was never a franchise QB" because that was exactly what Philly had planned for him. He just got unlucky with injuries and the next guy up made the most of his opportunity. Just like Alex Smith/Kaepernick.

Vick never let go of the job because Kolb couldn't take it for his own.

It isn't AT ALL like Alex Smith/Kaepernick. Kolb has literally NOTHING to offer next to Colin Kaepernick.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.

[RyFo18]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Vick never let go of the job because Kolb couldn't take it for his own.

It isn't AT ALL like Alex Smith/Kaepernick. Kolb has literally NOTHING to offer next to Colin Kaepernick.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Ummm. Kolb went down in week 9. In week 10 Vick had 413 total yards, 4 TD passes and 2 rushing TDs and the Eagles scored 59 points. Vick then went on to throw for 2000 yards and rush just under 500 over the last 8 weeks of the season. He also accounted for 23 touchdowns and led them into the playoffs. He had a 98 QB rating during that stretch.

None of that ever happens if Kolb doesn't get hurt. Kolb was their franchise QB. Nobody in their right mind is going to go back to Kolb though after Vick had that ridiculous game against the Redskins. This is all we are arguing. You said he wasn't. He was...Vick changed all that because NOBODY saw that coming from Vick.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by RyFo18

Ummm. Kolb went down in week 9. In week 10 Vick had 413 total yards, 4 TD passes and 2 rushing TDs and the Eagles scored 59 points. Vick then went on to throw for 2000 yards and rush just under 500 over the last 8 weeks of the season. He also accounted for 23 touchdowns and led them into the playoffs. He had a 98 QB rating during that stretch.

None of that ever happens if Kolb doesn't get hurt. Kolb was their franchise QB. Nobody in their right mind is going to go back to Kolb though after Vick had that ridiculous game against the Redskins. This is all we are arguing. You said he wasn't. He was...Vick changed all that because NOBODY saw that coming from Vick.

So Andy Reid went for the Flavor of the Month.

You're not making a case for him being a "QB guru". Quite the opposite actually.

[RyFo18]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

So Andy Reid went for the Flavor of the Month.

You're not making a case for him being a "QB guru". Quite the opposite actually.

He went with the better player that was winning. People that aren't viewed as franchise QBs by the league at large will not end up being traded for a solid CB and 2nd round pick.

In the end, the Eagles would have been foolish to plug Kolb back in after Vick played like he did. It doesn't mean that he wasn't a franchise QB, though. They got what they could for him knowing that Vick was their guy going forward. That decision is not just on Reid, but GM Howie Roseman as well.

I know it seems ridiculous to you to have a guy labeled as a "QB guru" be able to plug in a quarterback and have him play well. That's because I don't understand your reasoning at all. I mean, what else would you expect of a QB guru, besides good play at the QB position?

[RyFo18]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

So Andy Reid went for the Flavor of the Month.

You're not making a case for him being a "QB guru". Quite the opposite actually.

Going off of your definition then, the opposite of a QB guru is a guy who gets quarterbacks to play well in his offense. Got it.