Chiefs The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it - Page 26

Fat Elvis · 03-05-2013, 11:03 AM

Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1.

People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily.

What? That is nonsense!

Only in the traditional sense.

I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one.

If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well.

Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you.

If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat.

It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over.

Reid and Dorsey get this.

As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs.

We are being built to win.

We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies.

We are going to win.

And I like it.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-05-2013, 11:57 PM

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**DaneMcCloud** · 03-06-2013, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

You are misinformed. Pennington had a career QB rating of over 90.

Misinformed?

What did Pennington every win?

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-06-2013, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Our last HOF guard never won a playoff game in his career.

Keep looking for the QB, even if the options are expensive and negligible. If/when you find one, your team will actually win meaningful games.

The HOF guard won't get you shit.

That's actually untrue.

Will Shields was drafted in 1993, the same year that the Chiefs traded for Joe Montana.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-06-2013, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

Logic BOMB

False.

Poop bomb.

saphojunkie · 03-06-2013, 12:04 AM

Everyone clamoring for a guard is just being silly. Absolutely silly.

If you want a badass guard so badly, then go out and sign Andy Levitre, who is one of the best in the business and an unrestricted free agent.

God dang it, people. There's a reason David DeCastro, the "best guard prospect in a decade" fell to 24. In fact, the highest drafted interior linemen the past few years have both been taken by the Steelers, who were completely solid at virtually every other starting position but offensive line. (Pouncey was the other one, for those keeping score at home).

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-06-2013, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Dane...

Would you draft Chance Warmack over Matt Barkley?

I need a laugh...just go all the way and say it.

No more beating around the bush.

You are embarrassing yourself.

And when the Chiefs finally pass on Geno, there is plenty of ammo in which to embarrass you further.

As if using a 2nd on Stanzi isn't enough.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-06-2013, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Pennington won two playoff games WITH HERM EDWARDS AS HIS HEAD COACH.

If he didnt have all the shoulder trouble, who knows where his career goes.

That guy was a gamer.

The guy had a weak arm to begin with, which is why he lasted until #18 overall.

He didn't even play his first two seasons in the league.

**BossChief** · 03-06-2013, 12:09 AM

Shit, or get off the pot.

I'm not the one embarrassing himself here.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-06-2013, 12:09 AM

The Chiefs are taking a QB at one.
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**DaneMcCloud** · 03-06-2013, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I don't see what's so hard to understand with this.

You put Pennington on this team and we win 6-8 more games...you put Will Shields on this team and we win 0-2 more games.

Pennington was incapable of winning jackshit.

He played for two different franchises and while he was a "good guy", he was nothing more than a tease.

I sincerely hope that Andy Reid and John Dorsey avoid "teasing" Chiefs fans for the next 7 years.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-06-2013, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie

The Chiefs are taking a QB at one.
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No, the are not

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-06-2013, 12:10 AM

It is what it is.
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**DaneMcCloud** · 03-06-2013, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Shit, or get off the pot.

I'm not the one embarrassing himself here.

Fuuuck youuuu.

You're the person that said just last month that you'd spend a 2nd round pick on Stanzi.

You're freaking delusional. Or you're incapable of rational thought.

Either way, you're embarrassing yourself. Please stop.

**BossChief** · 03-06-2013, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The guy had a weak arm to begin with, which is why he lasted until #18 overall.

He didn't even play his first two seasons in the league.

The guy won 2 playoff games with one of the worst head coaches in the NFL.

Why are you scared to answer the question?

Barkley -or- Warmack

?

KCWolfman · 03-06-2013, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie

The Chiefs are taking a QB at one.
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I still need one more person to bet me 50.00 that they don't. I am willing to take your money as well.

03-05-2013, 11:03 AM
Fat Elvis Sexiest Athlete Join Date: Apr 2001 Casino cash: $1521925	The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1. People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily. What? That is nonsense! Only in the traditional sense. I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one. If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well. Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you. If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat. It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over. Reid and Dorsey get this. As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs. We are being built to win. We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies. We are going to win. And I like it.
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