Chiefs Nfl owners fighting with other owners over new deal

ShowtimeSBMVP · 06-17-2011, 10:05 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6671873

NFL Lockout
An internal battle is percolating at some of the highest NFL circles in which some owners are resisting the labor deal they've been trying to negotiate with the players, according to multiple sources.

A handful of NFL owners -- at least two of which are from AFC teams -- believe the parameters of the deal being discussed don't adequately address the original issues the league wanted corrected from the 2006 collective bargaining agreement, according to sources.

It is one of the primary reasons team officials are being prepped to stay an extra night in Chicago at Tuesday's owners meetings. It's not to potentially vote on a new collective bargaining agreement, as many suspected; it actually is to try to fend off some of the resistance that is mounting from a handful of NFL owners, according to sources.

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Some of this resistance has caused the NFL to adjust its schedule next week, moving up the time of Tuesday's meeting and prepping teams to potentially have to stay into Wednesday. The league is bracing for internal negotiations and lobbying that will impact how soon football could return.

The surprise is that many thought this kind of pushback to a deal would occur within the player ranks, not among NFL owners.

In reality, the resistance has been there since March, when commissioner Roger Goodell was authorized in a vote of the owners to offer and negotiate whatever he thought was best for the league.

After the players decertified, owners were briefed on Goodell's offer and some felt it was too one sided for the players and not strong enough for the teams. Those teams never changed their feelings, and recently they have made this directly known to Goodell, according to a source.

Now that the two sides have begun to make some significant progress within the past week, some owners are pushing back against the deal again, according to sources.

This subplot comes at a time when the NFL and NFLPA have made considerable progress, much of it on broad-picture items. The two sides, according to a source, have agreed to an unofficial timeline as to how events such as training camp and free agency would play out if the two sides could come to an agreement on the more significant elements of the deal.

A pushback from the owners' side has been apparent since March, when commissioner Roger Goodell was authorized in a vote to offer and negotiate whatever he thought was best for the league.

One NFL executive has been urging the league for weeks that, in order for the full preseason schedule to be played, an agreement between the NFL and NFLPA would have to occur no later than July 14.

This would give the courts time to approve the agreement, the NFLPA time to recertify, 32 teams and approximately 2,000 agents the time they would need to be debriefed on the new NFL rules, and players the time they need to get into camp and get in shape for the preseason.

There is a lot for both sides to get through. However, none of it can happen without an agreement that is closer than it has been in months but still a ways away on the most significant points -- division of revenues and jurisdiction over the next collective bargaining agreement.

Some owners clearly want football and are willing to meet the players' price. But others, remembering 2006, when a CBA that seemingly favored the players was thought to have been rushed through, want to make sure that they don't make the same mistake.

BigCatDaddy · 06-17-2011, 10:07 AM

So the Bengals and Bills are my guess as the 2 AFC teams.

Mr. Laz · 06-17-2011, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

So the Bengals and Bills are my guess as the 2 AFC teams.

would be my guess too

raiders,pats and chiefs would also be on the secondary guess list

milkman · 06-17-2011, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

would be my guess too

raiders,pats and chiefs would also be on the secondary guess list

Clark Hunt and Robert Kraft have been a part of the group of owners that have been negotiating with the players.

So...uh...no.

milkman · 06-17-2011, 10:20 AM

This is really not a surprise.

Brock and I, among others, have pointed out for some time that the biggest obstacle to this whole process was the division within the owner's ranks.

BigCatDaddy · 06-17-2011, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

This is really not a surprise.

Brock and I, among others, have pointed out for some time that the biggest obstacle to this whole process was the division within the owner's ranks.

I think it's going to be in all the major sports CBA's set to expire.

ChiefsCountry · 06-17-2011, 10:25 AM

Considering the teams are the major source of wealth for several of the ownership groups I would be a little weary myself if I was them.

Swanman · 06-17-2011, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

This is really not a surprise.

Brock and I, among others, have pointed out for some time that the biggest obstacle to this whole process was the division within the owner's ranks.

Isn't the Carolina owner a huge d-bag as well in this process? I could be remembering incorrectly.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 06-17-2011, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Swanman

Isn't the Carolina owner a huge d-bag as well in this process? I could be remembering incorrectly.

no alot of nfl reporters said he has backed off big time.

Mr. Laz · 06-17-2011, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Clark Hunt and Robert Kraft have been a part of the group of owners that have been negotiating with the players.

So...uh...no.

um ... what?

where does it say that the owners that disagree are part of the primary negotiating group?

milkman · 06-17-2011, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

um ... what?

where does it say that the owners that disagree are part of the primary negotiating group?

What?

You are making an assumption that the Chiefs and Patriots are among those that might balk at the deal that is being worked out.

I am suggesting to you that since Hunt and Kraft are part of the owner's negotiating group that your assumption is most likely wrong.

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sp...cret-meetings/

DMAC · 06-17-2011, 10:53 AM

Let's riot.

Hydrae · 06-17-2011, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DMAC

Let's riot.

I'm not Canadian.

DMAC · 06-17-2011, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Hydrae

I'm not Canadian.

Neither am I, but I want to score with a super hottie in the middle of the street.

chiefqueen · 06-17-2011, 11:44 AM

I did not watch Mike & Mike this moring, but in reading the article it would only take 1 owners to veto the CBA instead of 9. Is this true? If that's the case who knows when there will be NFL football again.

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chiefqueen On my throne Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $8192060	I did not watch Mike & Mike this moring, but in reading the article it would only take 1 owners to veto the CBA instead of 9. Is this true? If that's the case who knows when there will be NFL football again.
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