Chiefs New-Look Chiefs Turning Attention to NFL Draft - Page 14

FringeNC · 05:47 PM

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireSto...inglePage=true

The wholesale overhaul of the Kansas City Chiefs is nearly complete.

Andy Reid has been hired to replace Romeo Crennel as coach, and longtime Packers personnel man John Dorsey has replaced Scott ***** as general manager. Most of the assistant coaches are on board, and now the Chiefs can start turning their attention toward the rebuilding job.

That includes preparation for the NFL draft.

The Chiefs finished 2-14 last season, matching the worst record in their 53-year history. But the byproduct of all that on-field suffering is that they have the No. 1 pick for the first time, giving Kansas City a good place to start turning around the team.

"We're in a unique position," said Dorsey, who will work closely with Reid but have final say over personnel decisions. "We all know there is some pressure involved in that."

It is pressure unlike anything he's ever experienced.

Dorsey began his career as a scout for the Packers, and eventually rose to direct of college scouting and director of football operations. But his primary responsibility was assembling the draft board, and the final decision ultimately came down to the Packers' GM — Tom Braatz early in his career, Ron Wolf and Mike Sherman after that, and most recently Ted Thompson.

Now, when the final seconds are ticking away on April 25, all eyes in the Kansas City draft room will turn toward Dorsey for a decision that could shape the future of the franchise.

"Ultimately, we're just trying to win Super Bowls. That's what we're trying to do," said Dorsey, adding that he plans to use a similar blueprint to Green Bay.

"History and time has proven — and that's all I know — but this system works," Dorsey said Monday. "That's what I'm going to try to implement."

Examining the Packers' drafts over the past two decades yields a few ideas about how Dorsey will proceed: He'll likely choose the best player of available, regardless of position needs, but also understands the importance of drafting for depth at quarterback.

Many outsiders panned the choice of quarterback Aaron Rodgers when Brett Favre was firmly ensconced in Green Bay, and Rodgers has turned into a Super Bowl champion. Matt Flynn was picked in the seventh round and became a valuable commodity as a backup, while other guys such as Matt Hasselbeck and Aaron Brooks developed into starters elsewhere in the NFL.

"What we've always tried to do is develop a third guy," Dorsey said, "and develop him and see if he can be a 2 or a 1."

By contrast, the Chiefs have spent only one pick — a fifth-rounder — on a quarterback in the past six drafts, and the result has been disastrous play at the game's marquee position.

Matt Cassel is still under contract, even though he was benched last season. Brady Quinn played just as poorly, while Ricky Stanzi never saw the field during the regular season.

"Any time when you begin to build a franchise, let's be real, the quarterback is a very important part," Dorsey said. "As you note the last couple weeks in the playoffs, the quarterback position is a very important position to the long-term success of the organization."

Important enough to spend the No. 1 overall pick on it?

Not necessarily.

Dorsey and Reid both insisted they plan to draft the best player available, and that may not be a quarterback. West Virginia's Geno Smith is widely considered the best prospect at his position, but some draft analysts believe he's only worthy of a late first-round selection.

"My draft philosophy, you'd love to get good players. That's the primary thing," Reid said. "As the general manager comes in, that's what he's going to do. That's his responsibility."

It's not as if the Chiefs don't have other needs.

Left tackle Branden Albert and wide receiver Dwayne Bowe can both become free agents, and there are gaping holes along the defensive line, at linebacker and in the secondary. And it just so happens that some of the best available players fit those needs: Texas A&M offensive tackle Luke Joeckel, Florida State defensive end Bjoern Werner and George linebacker Jarvis Jones.

One thing that Dorsey made clear is that he won't reach for a player.

"Philosophically, you stay true to your board," he said. "You spend all those months staying true to your board, and all of a sudden you have to jump a player due to positional needs? I don't think you do that. Historically, we have proven you don't do that."

Dorsey plans to keep the Chiefs scouting department intact through the draft, but he's also bringing with him an entire season's worth of his own scouting work from Green Bay.

That will be augmented by work done at college all-star games, various pro days organized by schools, the annual scouting combine and from hour upon hour of highlight tapes.

"It's going to be a focus of our fans, the media and our personnel department here for the next three or so months," Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt said of the No. 1 pick. "It's very important we get that pick right."

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okcchief · 01-15-2013, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Yes because of 30 years of not drafting a QBotf for thirty years has worked so well for us. I wouldn't be as up set if we draft Barkley or Wilson but stilll pissed off if we don't draft a QB with our first pick.

Believe me, I'm hoping Geno separates himself in the combine. I'm going to judge the draft as a whole though, not just the first pick. They could make another move or have a QB drop to rd 2 we'd all be happy with. As long as its Cassel or Quinn next year I'll trust their judgement. I have seen enough of those **** heads in this town.

I agree though, for once we need to groom a QB.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-15-2013, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

When are you and Mecca going to go to work on an NFL team so they can get the benefit of your drafturbator genius?

How about never?

Why the **** would I want to give my cushy life to leave my family, scout and spend 40 weeks on the road each year?

That fish in your avatar is smarter than you.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-15-2013, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

That is sig worthy

And no where did he state that said QB must be taken #1 overall or even from the draft itself.

IAmABabySeal · 01-15-2013, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

That's like saying ***** didn't have full control of the Chiefs. ***** had more say than just GM duties. Banner was running the Eagles even if he didn't have the GM title.

He wrote contracts...that's it

Prison Bitch · 01-15-2013, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Yes because of 30 years of not drafting a QBotf for thirty years has worked so well for us. I wouldn't be as up set if we draft Barkley or Wilson but stilll pissed off if we don't draft a QB with our first pick.

Of course, when we did 30 years ago we drafted Blackledge.

RustShack · 01-15-2013, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by IAmABabySeal

He wrote contracts...that's it

Lol think what you want. But I'll believe people in the know over you.

**BossChief** · 01-15-2013, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And no where did he state that said QB must be taken #1 overall or even from the draft itself.

He has said repeatedly that he will build this team through the draft.

IAmABabySeal · 01-15-2013, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Lol think what you want. But I'll believe people in the know over you.

Oh, you know somebody who knows somebody, who's sister once met a guy who knew this guy who knew someone who know somebody in the know?

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-15-2013, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

He has said repeatedly that he will build this team through the draft.

And Green Bay traded for Favre.

I just wouldn't get too worked up about anything until after the draft actually happens.

IAmABabySeal · 01-15-2013, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And no where did he state that said QB must be taken #1 overall or even from the draft itself.

Reid is known for due diligence in the QB process. He followed Kolb all the way back to HS for example. I think that whoever you guys get, I wouldn't be disappointed.

munkey · 01-15-2013, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I just want an actual list of Geno Smith's faults along with some actual evidence of said faults. 'Cause the ones everyone throws around ain't on the screen. If there are some legit issues, I wanna see 'em.

I don't want to jump to conclusions, but I'm seriously beginning to wonder if there's some other reason people don't like him...

I know nothing about him... That should tell you something...IMO he's not a #1 draft pick...

**Dylan** · 01-15-2013, 10:57 PM

Draft Picks of the Andy Reid Era

QB Donovan McNabb 1st round
RB Brian Westbrook 3rd round
DE Trent Cole, 5th round
WR DeSean Jackson 2nd round
CB Sheldon Brown 2nd round
TE Brent Celek 5th round
CB Lito Sheppard 1st round
WR Jason Avant 4th round
LB Stewart Bradley 3rd round
G Shawn Andrews 1st round
OL Todd Herremans 4th round
SS Michael Lewis 2nd round
DT Mike Patterson 1st round
DT Brodrick Bunkley 1st round (solid player)
RB Correll Buckhalter 4th round (played behind Brian Westbrook)
RB LeSean McCoy 2nd round
DT Corey Simon 1st round
QB Kevin Kolb 2nd round
RT Winston Justice 2nd round
QB A.J. Feeley 5th round (4-1 record after McNabb was injured. Traded to Miami for 2nd round pick)
DE Derrick Burgess 3rd round
FB Cecil Martin 6th round
WR Jeremy Macklin 1st round
TE L.J. Smith 2nd round
LB Omar Gaither 5th round

what happened to the new Eagles' members? They left?

good riddance!

j/k

munkey · 01-15-2013, 10:57 PM

****ing Genobators just can't handle the truth....he's not the #1 pick of the draft...#1 QB? Maybe...not #1 pick...

IAmABabySeal · 01-15-2013, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan

Draft Picks of the Andy Reid Era

what happened to the new Eagles' members? They left?

good riddance!

j/k

right here scro!!!

keg in kc · 01-15-2013, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And Green Bay traded for Favre.

Which still has to be one of the strangest trades in NFL history. Atlanta drafts a QB the head coach doesn't want. The Jets, where Wolf worked at the time, supposedly would have taken him with the pick right after the Falcons, so the next year as the new Green Bay GM, he trades the Packers first round pick for him. A year after Favre'd played five whole snaps, highlighted by a sack and two INTs (one returned for a TD). And the medical staff told Wolf not to sign him.

That would basically be like us trading for Brock Osweiler in April. Can you imagine the reaction? It would be amazing to behold.

01-15-2013, 05:17 PM
FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $1576014	New-Look Chiefs Turning Attention to NFL Draft http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireSto...inglePage=true The wholesale overhaul of the Kansas City Chiefs is nearly complete. Andy Reid has been hired to replace Romeo Crennel as coach, and longtime Packers personnel man John Dorsey has replaced Scott *** as general manager. Most of the assistant coaches are on board, and now the Chiefs can start turning their attention toward the rebuilding job. That includes preparation for the NFL draft. The Chiefs finished 2-14 last season, matching the worst record in their 53-year history. But the byproduct of all that on-field suffering is that they have the No. 1 pick for the first time, giving Kansas City a good place to start turning around the team. "We're in a unique position," said Dorsey, who will work closely with Reid but have final say over personnel decisions. "We all know there is some pressure involved in that." It is pressure unlike anything he's ever experienced. Dorsey began his career as a scout for the Packers, and eventually rose to direct of college scouting and director of football operations. But his primary responsibility was assembling the draft board, and the final decision ultimately came down to the Packers' GM — Tom Braatz early in his career, Ron Wolf and Mike Sherman after that, and most recently Ted Thompson. Now, when the final seconds are ticking away on April 25, all eyes in the Kansas City draft room will turn toward Dorsey for a decision that could shape the future of the franchise. "Ultimately, we're just trying to win Super Bowls. That's what we're trying to do," said Dorsey, adding that he plans to use a similar blueprint to Green Bay. "History and time has proven — and that's all I know — but this system works," Dorsey said Monday. "That's what I'm going to try to implement." Examining the Packers' drafts over the past two decades yields a few ideas about how Dorsey will proceed: He'll likely choose the best player of available, regardless of position needs, but also understands the importance of drafting for depth at quarterback. Many outsiders panned the choice of quarterback Aaron Rodgers when Brett Favre was firmly ensconced in Green Bay, and Rodgers has turned into a Super Bowl champion. Matt Flynn was picked in the seventh round and became a valuable commodity as a backup, while other guys such as Matt Hasselbeck and Aaron Brooks developed into starters elsewhere in the NFL. "What we've always tried to do is develop a third guy," Dorsey said, "and develop him and see if he can be a 2 or a 1." By contrast, the Chiefs have spent only one pick — a fifth-rounder — on a quarterback in the past six drafts, and the result has been disastrous play at the game's marquee position. Matt Cassel is still under contract, even though he was benched last season. Brady Quinn played just as poorly, while Ricky Stanzi never saw the field during the regular season. "Any time when you begin to build a franchise, let's be real, the quarterback is a very important part," Dorsey said. "As you note the last couple weeks in the playoffs, the quarterback position is a very important position to the long-term success of the organization." Important enough to spend the No. 1 overall pick on it? Not necessarily. Dorsey and Reid both insisted they plan to draft the best player available, and that may not be a quarterback. West Virginia's Geno Smith is widely considered the best prospect at his position, but some draft analysts believe he's only worthy of a late first-round selection. "My draft philosophy, you'd love to get good players. That's the primary thing," Reid said. "As the general manager comes in, that's what he's going to do. That's his responsibility." It's not as if the Chiefs don't have other needs. Left tackle Branden Albert and wide receiver Dwayne Bowe can both become free agents, and there are gaping holes along the defensive line, at linebacker and in the secondary. And it just so happens that some of the best available players fit those needs: Texas A&M offensive tackle Luke Joeckel, Florida State defensive end Bjoern Werner and George linebacker Jarvis Jones. One thing that Dorsey made clear is that he won't reach for a player.** "Philosophically, you stay true to your board," he said. "You spend all those months staying true to your board, and all of a sudden you have to jump a player due to positional needs? I don't think you do that. Historically, we have proven you don't do that." Dorsey plans to keep the Chiefs scouting department intact through the draft, but he's also bringing with him an entire season's worth of his own scouting work from Green Bay. That will be augmented by work done at college all-star games, various pro days organized by schools, the annual scouting combine and from hour upon hour of highlight tapes. "It's going to be a focus of our fans, the media and our personnel department here for the next three or so months," Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt said of the No. 1 pick. "It's very important we get that pick right." ——— Last edited by FringeNC; 01-15-2013 at 05:47 PM.. Reason: bold parts as requested for the pathologically lazy
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Dylan The Lede Join Date: Aug 2007 Casino cash: $10016591	Draft Picks of the Andy Reid Era QB Donovan McNabb 1st round RB Brian Westbrook 3rd round DE Trent Cole, 5th round WR DeSean Jackson 2nd round CB Sheldon Brown 2nd round TE Brent Celek 5th round CB Lito Sheppard 1st round WR Jason Avant 4th round LB Stewart Bradley 3rd round G Shawn Andrews 1st round OL Todd Herremans 4th round SS Michael Lewis 2nd round DT Mike Patterson 1st round DT Brodrick Bunkley 1st round (solid player) RB Correll Buckhalter 4th round (played behind Brian Westbrook) RB LeSean McCoy 2nd round DT Corey Simon 1st round QB Kevin Kolb 2nd round RT Winston Justice 2nd round QB A.J. Feeley 5th round (4-1 record after McNabb was injured. Traded to Miami for 2nd round pick) DE Derrick Burgess 3rd round FB Cecil Martin 6th round WR Jeremy Macklin 1st round TE L.J. Smith 2nd round LB Omar Gaither 5th round what happened to the new Eagles' members? They left? good riddance! j/k __________________
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munkey Veteran Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Bend Oregon Casino cash: $10007596	****ing Genobators just can't handle the truth....he's not the #1 pick of the draft...#1 QB? Maybe...not #1 pick... __________________ "In the time of chimpanzees I was a munkey"
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