The CW: New Green Arrow TV Show ( with new actor)

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The series, which will air on Wednesdays at 8:00-9:00 p.m., stars Stephen Amell as Oliver Queen, Colin Donnell as Tommy, Katie Cassidy as Laurel Lance, David Ramsey as John Diggle, Willa Holland as Thea Queen, with Susanna Thompson as Moira Queen and Paul Blackthorne as Detective Quentin Lance.

[Sure-Oz]

@drawandstrike: Look think about it.
1) Laurel is gonna be fine
2) She asks Oliver to promise her something
3) She 'suddenly' has a seizure & dies

#Arrow

[old_geezer]

To be honest I don't believe she's dead. I've seen far too many "deaths" lately that turn out not to be actually dead. Until I see a body with dirt being shoveled over it I'll remain skeptical. She was doing fine - switch to outside of window shot with her and Oliver talking intently - switch back to shot of her suddenly convulsing for no apparent reason. I think they had a plan to fake her death to keep her safe till it's over.

I posted this on the Blu-ray forum right after the show was over. She may not be a regular anymore but I doubt that she's dead.(IMO)

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by old_geezer

To be honest I don't believe she's dead. I've seen far too many "deaths" lately that turn out not to be actually dead. Until I see a body with dirt being shoveled over it I'll remain skeptical. She was doing fine - switch to outside of window shot with her and Oliver talking intently - switch back to shot of her suddenly convulsing for no apparent reason. I think they had a plan to fake her death to keep her safe till it's over.

I posted this on the Blu-ray forum right after the show was over. She may not be a regular anymore but I doubt that she's dead.(IMO)

Id like to think so but Everyone is talking like she is dead and it's over. So many pisses off fans tweeting @ the writers and Arrow accts

[007]

if she isn't dead then what a horrible thing to do to her father. While I don't like the idea of killing her off, she needs to stay dead. I'm tired of shows like this killing people then bringing them back to life.

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by Guru

if she isn't dead then what a horrible thing to do to her father. While I don't like the idea of killing her off, she needs to stay dead. I'm tired of shows like this killing people then bringing them back to life.

No one dies in Arrow...but the Lazarus pit is gone so idk how else they'd bring her back unless they involve legends of tomorrow and go back on time. That promise scene is oddly shot though...guess we will see of they say what the promise is this season or next. Just think it's odd she's fine then croaks padme style. No last scene with her dad etc

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[keg in kc]

It sounds like she's dead. I don't think it's a swerve after reading several interviews. It was just awkward editing making it look like Ollie did something. Whatever she told him is supposed to pay off next season.

[Valiant]

dark canary

[Sure-Oz]

Review that I'm in agreement with. http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain.../#72607e877509

APR 7, 2016 @ 12:13 PM37,770*VIEWS

Arrow Is Dead, And Olicity Killed It

Erik Kain

CONTRIBUTOR

I write about the intersection of entertainment and technology.

Spoilers through Season 4 of ‘Arrow’ follow.

Credit: CW

Much more than a beloved character died for me in last night’s*Arrow.

No, Laurel wasn’t the only victim of this atrocity.*Arrow,*the show itself, just jumped the shark so badly I’m not sure it can ever recover.

What a joke. What a bad joke. What a disservice to a character who we’ve spent the last four seasons getting to know, one of the only characters with a truly heroic arc, going from spurned lover and idealist, to crime-fighting vigilante and stable force in Team Arrow. A character often wasted, given too little screen time, and pushed to the background—but one who deserved better.

And how does she shuffle off her mortal coil? By telling Oliver that she still loves him, but that she’s so happy he found Felicity. Her dying words are about*Felicity!

Well, not quite. She says something to Oliver after that but we don’t hear it. It’s a mystery. And then just like that, she’s gone.

It’s a shame, really, because this wasn’t a terrible episode other than its terrible ending. They had us guessing a bit with Andy. The prison break was intense. But everything to do with Laurel was just awful. She just very suddenly decides she’s giving up on Team Arrow because…I guess her entire four season character arc is just meaningless.

And while all the actors did a great job—you really*feel*Quentin Lance’s pain here; Paul Blackthorne is terrific—I can’t help but wonder if their talents would be better used elsewhere.

Honestly, killing off Laurel isn’t just an insult to her character, it makes a mockery out of everyone. Especially Quentin. He lost Sara, but then she’s back! Then she’s killed for real by Malcolm for really stupid reasons. Then she gets resurrected! But now his other daughter is dead! (Will Sara hear about this over in*Legends of Tomorrow?)

You have to wonder*if they’ll bring Laurel back from the dead, too, though it won’t matter at that point. I’m almost as sick of the fake-out deaths as I am of the Olicity pandering.

There’s no resurrecting a show that’s fallen so deeply in love with its own mistakes. It’s a kind of*twisted vanity. The producers and writers have stopped caring at all about making a vigilante show.

Now, as critics of the Olicity trainwreck term it, we’ve got “Felicity and Friends” the charming tween soap opera about a playboy billionaire and his hot fiance.

Will they finally tie the knot? Or won’t they?!? Let’s get that pesky other love interest out of the way now…




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A while back I wrote that for*Arrow*to survive,*Olicity must die. Instead,*Arrow’s*producers killed off the Black Canary, removing the last “obstacle” to Oliver and Felicity’s eventual reunion. The Black Canary, a cornerstone of the Green Arrow stories, was killed off so that we could have more relationship drama. (Or she wasn’t, and Laurel and Oliver are in cahoots with some secret plan…but then, what a cruel thing to do to Quentin, and another lie Oliver would be telling everyone…it doesn’t add up.)

The Black Canary is dead, and she didn’t even go out with a bang. Her death wasn’t even about her.

I’ll keep watching and writing my reviews, but I’ve moved past annoyance at this point into a realm bordering on apathy. Suffice to say, whatever enthusiasm I once had for this show—and I had quite a lot—has evaporated.

The Flash*and*Legends of Tomorrow*are far better shows, in any case. At least we have them to look forward to.

There was a big death last night, that’s for sure. RIP*Arrow.*What a great superhero show you could have been. Here’s to Katie Cassidy moving on to bigger and better things.

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

It sounds like she's dead. I don't think it's a swerve after reading several interviews. It was just awkward editing making it look like Ollie did something. Whatever she told him is supposed to pay off next season.

Sadly for now this is the case I think too

[keg in kc]

I still like Felicity far more than I ever liked Laurel.

The problem isn't her. The problem isn't Ollicity. The problem is that they've strung it out too long. It's kind of the same problem Supernatual sometimes has, where you just wish the brother drama would go on the back burner (it has this season and the show is better for it...). On arrow they need to either marry or break up, and focus on Dahrk. You know, the worst evil they've faced to date? Enough with the relationship drama.

That's what kills the show. Losing Laurel is not a huge loss at this point, other than obviously they're down a man now.

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I still like Felicity far more than I ever liked Laurel.

The problem isn't her. The problem isn't Ollicity. The problem is that they've strung it out too long. It's kind of the same problem Supernatual sometimes has, where you just wish the brother drama would go on the back burner (it has this season and the show is better for it...). On arrow they need to either marry or break up, and focus on Dahrk. You know, the worst evil they've faced to date? Enough with the relationship drama.

That's what kills the show. Losing Laurel is not a huge loss at this point, other than obviously they're down a man now.

Losing Black Canary kindve sucks...they def have so much damage control going on and many fans that are saying they're done. We'll see if they truly stick to the perm. death. There are alot of comic lore/Laurel fans that are upset. That said they could've had her die much better not a tease like she's OK then randomly croaks. The last 10 min was shit. Most say this is the beginning of the end if arrow. We'll see I guess.

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[kccrow]

I want Laurel to stay dead. Was she the right one to kill off? I don't know for sure, but she's definitely not the worst one they could have axed and I think people are doing far too much crying about her elimination. Her place in the show was relatively awkward to begin with. It would have been different if they had Oliver come back from the island and fall back in love with Laurel instead of Felicity, but they didn't. I think they can play off this really well and turn the Green Arrow back into a bad-ass. Use this as a spark to bring back what made the show good in the first season - make him start killing again. I don't agree its the beginning of the end, so long as the producers do it right. It could be breathing life back into the show instead.

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I want Laurel to stay dead. Was she the right one to kill off? I don't know for sure, but she's definitely not the worst one they could have axed and I think people are doing far too much crying about her elimination. Her place in the show was relatively awkward to begin with. It would have been different if they had Oliver come back from the island and fall back in love with Laurel instead of Felicity, but they didn't. I think they can play off this really well and turn the Green Arrow back into a bad-ass. Use this as a spark to bring back what made the show good in the first season - make him start killing again. I don't agree its the beginning of the end, so long as the producers do it right. It could be breathing life back into the show instead.

This is probably the only way I'll accept getting rid of Black Canary from this universe... Since they ****ed up Laurel the last few seasons with oliver. Felicity... Bs...heard she wasnt originally intended to be on the show long either. Wouldve prefered her as Oliver's Lana Lang...instead of Lois

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

@drawandstrike: Look think about it.
1) Laurel is gonna be fine
2) She asks Oliver to promise her something
3) She 'suddenly' has a seizure & dies

#Arrow

There might be a Barry reset too

[Beef Supreme]

I'm still in the "show me the body" camp. Going from "You have to promise me something," and cutting to a secret conversation just reeks of faking her death. A few interviews aren't going to convince me otherwise. Killing the Black Canary seems pretty counter to everything ever in the comic books, as well.

However, their treatment of the Black Canary character so far has been kinda terrible. Sarah was fairly believable. She didn't look nearly as ridiculous in the fight scenes, and the backstory of League of Assassin training worked for the character. Laurel had a few boxing lessons from Wildcat and fights like that girl who got hit in the head with a shovel in that Youtube video.

There has definitely been too much teen angst this season. Oliver & Felicity need to get over it or don't. All the comic fans have always expected the Green Arrow to hook up with the Black Canary. Which is another reason I don't think Laurel is dead. But as goofy as things are starting to get, they might just stick Felicity in a Black Canary costume.