Geno Smith is Sam Bradford

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I've always thought Bradford was overrated, especially since his surrounding talent at OU was phenomenal.

And LOL at Fisher for sticking with this guy when you could have had RG3. So glad we didn't hire Fisher here. We would have continued our excellence of 8-8.

Rams are 1-0 vs RG3. RG3 also had a pretty severe injury to end the season and Bradford's worst injury with the Rams was a high ankle sprain.

[MahiMike]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I've always thought Bradford was overrated, especially since his surrounding talent at OU was phenomenal.

And LOL at Fisher for sticking with this guy when you could have had RG3. So glad we didn't hire Fisher here. We would have continued our excellence of 8-8.

Yeah, I'm sure those 4 1st-round picks in the next 2 drafts will pale in comparison to broke-knee RG3.

[ct]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I've always thought Bradford was overrated, especially since his surrounding talent at OU was phenomenal.

And LOL at Fisher for sticking with this guy when you could have had RG3. So glad we didn't hire Fisher here. We would have continued our excellence of 8-8.

They didn't necessarily choose Bradford over RG3.

They chose to keep developing Bradford plus

Moving down to #6 (traded again to Dallas for #14 DT Michael Brockers and #45, traded again to Bears for #50 RB Isaiah Pead, outplayed by 7th round RB Daryl Washington, and #150 OT Watkins, whom I know nothing about) Note Chicago used #45 on WR Alshon Jeffrey, whom I think would have helped STL more than Brian Quick, or Pead and a 5th round OT.
and 2nd round #39 CB Janoris Jenkins
and 2013 1st round pick (#22)
and 2014 1st round pick (TBD)

Worth it? Only time will tell, but two 1st round picks the next couple years is a good position to build around Bradford IMO.

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by ct

Moving down to #6 (traded again to Dallas for #14 DT Michael Brockers and #45, traded again to Bears for #50 RB Isaiah Pead, outplayed by 7th round RB Daryl Washington, and #150 OT Watkins, whom I know nothing about)

Richardson was a nice find, no doubt. Pead struggled in the preseason, but as time went on, he seemed to wait for the hole to develop. In the last game vs Seattle, he did alright.

Watkins, who had a problem coming into the preseason, was injured Week 1 vs Detroit and placed on IR.

Originally Posted by jspchief

Bradfords NFL shortcomings:
1. Plays poorly under QB pressure. Kind of goes back to #2 above. As good as his OU line was, his STL line has been bad. He's still learning to make plays under pursuit.
2.Durability? As others have said, he seems to always have something wrong with him.
3. What else?

Overall it seems that some of the pre draft concerns have been justified. It's also clear that he's played behind a bad line with limited weapons to throw to. If I'm a Rams fan, I would have expected better but certainly wouldn't be ready to flush.

1. He was sacked for 30 consecutive games, the longest streak in the NFL, until the last 2 weeks when they didn't allow any sacks.

2. For the last time, Bradford hasn't really had any injury issues. He played all of the games(and snaps) in 2010 as well as playing in all of the games in 2012. 2011, he suffered a high ankle sprain, which was made worse due to Spags thinking he was on the hot seat, thus rushing Bradford back into play behind a roster that went from one of the youngest in the NFL to one of the oldest due to one offseason of signing a shit load of guys to 1 year deals.

Yes, while some people expect more from Bradford, there are many more who realize he's done fine considering the situation that surrounds him. Fisher even said that Bradford's struggles are from the talent that surrounds him, not him.

[MagicHef]

[PaulAllen]

Bradford has been a bust! Don't do it!

Derp

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

This was my original assessment of Geno. I've since softened on my stance due to pressure and think he can be better

[Bowser]

We're to assume that everyone thinks Bradford is a bust, so comparing Smith and Bradford makes Smith an automatic future bust. At least that's what I get from the passive aggressive feel of the thread title.

Then, there's the actual write up from the article, which doesn't exactly paint Geno in a terrible light....

NFL comparison: Sam Bradford, St. Louis Rams
Smith has been described as a "ho-hum" quarterback prospect in some circles, but I see a polished pocket passer with outstanding arm talent and passing skills. Smith displays the capacity to throw the ball accurately to every area of the field with zip, velocity and touch. Additionally, he flashes anticipation and awareness by leading receivers into open areas against tight coverage. Although a lot has been made of Smith's late-season struggles -- he tossed six interceptions over Mountaineers' final seven games after throwing 25 touchdown passes with zero picks in the team's first six games -- the fact that he finished the season with a 42:6 touchdown-to-interception ratio behind a leaky offensive line suggests that the reports of his questionable pocket presence and progression awareness are greatly exaggerated. Now, I'm not suggesting Smith doesn't have flaws that should rate as concerns for prospective teams, but I don't believe his deficiencies are significant enough to keep him from being a productive starter in the NFL.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Bowser

We're to assume that everyone thinks Bradford is a bust, so comparing Smith and Bradford makes Smith an automatic future bust. At least that's what I get from the passive aggressive feel of the thread title.

Then, there's the actual write up from the article, which doesn't exactly paint Geno in a terrible light....

This seems like a passive aggressive post.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Bowser

We're to assume that everyone thinks Bradford is a bust, so comparing Smith and Bradford makes Smith an automatic future bust. At least that's what I get from the passive aggressive feel of the thread title.

Then, there's the actual write up from the article, which doesn't exactly paint Geno in a terrible light....

Yeah, i'd say its far more positive than negative... if he's Bradford with a stronger arm, sign me up.

[philfree]

Bradford was drafted #1 under the old CBA and got like $50mil guaranteed. I think these guys are comparable but Geno has a little more arm and he's more athletic. There's no reason Geno Smith can't be drafted by the Chiefs. He should be the pick.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by philfree

Bradford was drafted #1 under the old CBA and got like $50mil guaranteed. I think these guys are comparable but Geno has a little more arm and he's more athletic. There's no reason Geno Smith can't be drafted by the Chiefs. He should be the pick.

Eh, people are idiots.

Being a good prospect doesn't guarantee you're going to be a good NFL player - such is life. Bradford was a very good prospect; he was an elite prospect before the shoulder injury worried people about his durability.

So if you take Bradford, remove the shoulder injury, increase his mobility and then give him the upside that if he fixes his footwork, his arm strength will be about 10% better, I'd say you're more than justified in taking the risk.

If this exact draft class were around in 2011, we'd never have the kind of conversations we're having right now. Luck/RGIII dicked this all up.

Geno Smith is easily the equal of many QBs that came before him and went #1 overall. He's a completely justifiable, sensible pick in a position of extreme need.

So naturally we'll take the 2nd best tackle prospect in the draft or a !@#$ing guard.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Eh, people are idiots.

Being a good prospect doesn't guarantee you're going to be a good NFL player - such is life. Bradford was a very good prospect; he was an elite prospect before the shoulder injury worried people about his durability.

So if you take Bradford, remove the shoulder injury, increase his mobility and then give him the upside that if he fixes his footwork, his arm strength will be about 10% better, I'd say you're more than justified in taking the risk.

If this exact draft class were around in 2011, we'd never have the kind of conversations we're having right now. Luck/RGIII dicked this all up.

Geno Smith is easily the equal of many QBs that came before him and went #1 overall. He's a completely justifiable, sensible pick in a position of extreme need.

So naturally we'll take the 2nd best tackle prospect in the draft or a !@#$ing guard.

Yep to all of this.

Plus, Bradford walked into a team lead by a defensive minded HC and an OC that was basically on his own in Shurmur.

Having an offensive guy like Reid makes the selection even more desirable than the situation Bradford walked into.

[O.city]

Bradford had elite accuracy coming out, or so was the thought.

I'd also chime that the Rams haven't exactly filled their roster with playmakers for him to throw to.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by O.city

Bradford had elite accuracy coming out, or so was the thought.

I'd also chime that the Rams haven't exactly filled their roster with playmakers for him to throw to.

I'll never quite understand why they let Danario Alexander go when they basically had him for free.

I guess that's part of why the Rams are the Rams.