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Old 06-20-2012, 10:59 AM  
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Should those who in our armed forces deserve entitlements?

Let me preface this by saying that I am one of the Patriotic members here on CP. Those of you who know me know how many threads I have posted honoring those who served/serve our country. But I was dissappointed today in our local Speedway gas station. There was 2 Marines driving a big Military SUV vehicle and they were walking into to Speedway in full attire. I was next to them and I thanked them for serving our country to which neither replied to me, I thought they didn't hear me. So I said it again, and the one guy said "Yeah we heard you the first time". At this point I left it alone. At this time another little convoy pulled up (I would assume from the same group), they were in full garb as well. They congregate around the slushy machine and they all get one (there was maybe 10 of them).

They come up to pay for the slushies and they ask where Chris is? Chris is the manager down there, I know because I buy a big gulp almost every day, and I know the people who work there. The cashier says "Im sorry Chris isn't in today" she then tells them their total and they start going nuts. The main guy says CHRIS NEVER MAKES US PAY!!! I AM NOT PAYING!! The cashier says that she's sorry, but she cannot give the slushies away or it will come out of her pay. The Marine then says "Do you know who the F we are? We are F-ing Marines, and we protect your God damn Country Bit**". At this time the other Marines in the group started chattering and saying how ridiculous this was that they wouldn't give them drinks. The cashier says "serve If I give it to you I would have to give it to everyone else, I am not the manager and I cannot give them to you, you can either pay for them or leave them here". The Marine then says F YOU!! The cashier then says if they don't leave they will call the cops. They leave, and they refuse to pay for their slushies. Everyone in the store has the David at the Dentist "Is this real life" look on their face.

I am all for being generous to those who protect us and I try to pick up the tab for them at fast food places, or pay for their big gulps, but I was shocked to see that behavior. The sad thing was there was at least 10 of them, and not one of them would say this is ridiculous.

My question, when those who volunteer to serve our Country demand things or expect entitlements, do you think they should be able to do that? Or should they not be able to do that?
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:15 PM   #46
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Slushies? That is quite a downgrade from pie.
That actually brings up a very interesting question: what if it was a pie-flavored slushie?
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:21 PM   #47
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I'm pondering sending this letter to Applebee's. What do you think?


Dear Mr. Applebee,

I recently became aware of 10% discount to people in the military, and applaud you for that decision. Military people protect our nation from communists and terrorists.

However, I would like to point out an omission in your policy.

Why do you offer military discounts? It’s not just to keep the communists and terrorists out of the country, because if they visited their money is still good. They would likely visit Applebee’s and enjoy your tasty Sizzling N'Awlins Skillet just as much as capitalists and non-terrorists. (Well, maybe not terrorists since the Sizzling N’Awlins Skillet contains pork, but you get my drift.)

I suspect that the real reason that for military discounts is not to keep communists and terrorists out, but rather to maintain our great American lifestyle. If communists and terrorists ran the U.S., we wouldn’t have Sizzling N’Awlins Skillets. We’d be driving boxy black cars and wearing drab grey clothes and our Raisin Bran would just be bran.

Now, I work in the field of market research. What would the U.S. be like without market research? We’d be driving boxy black cars and wearing drab grey clothes and our Raisin Bran would just be bran. And I would hazard a guess that the Sizzling N’Awlins Skillet wouldn’t exist without market research.

Clearly, market research and the military both protect us from the same fate, and therefore are equally deserving of a 10% discount. Would you please consider implementing this as an expanded policy?

Add a coupla sentence at the end:


"If not, I understand perfectly. Unfortunately, as you might expect in this day and age, my lawyer will be in touch with you. Your failure to provide equal discounts to market researchers clearly represents discriminatory conduct sanctionable pursuant to 42 U.S.C 2000d - 2000d-7 and applicable federal regulations promulgated thereunder. Accordingly, after exhausting administrative remedies to the extent required, a class action lawsuit will be filed against Applebees on behalf of all market researchers who have patronized Applebees within the applicable statute of limitations.

Our conduct will be dictated by your actions."



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Old 06-20-2012, 12:21 PM   #48
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Well done sir.


Actually, now he's serious...
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:30 PM   #49
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:39 PM   #50
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You can't let one group of douche bag Marines represent "the Military" as a whole.

I am a veteran and I can tell you just because someone served in the military doesn't mean they deserve anything necessarily, I was in the military with some total losers.

If someone serves honorably and with humility then that is something to be respected.

Now keep in mind most of the military is made up of teenagers and younger guys who frankly don't know their ass from a hole in the ground yet so they may be misguided in some ways, but that's different than what you described. Sounds like a bunch of moron douche bags to me.
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:41 PM   #51
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If the guy who runs that store gave it away every previous trip I understand some frustration. The disrespect and f-bombs are unacceptable though. I'm guessing the NCOIC here got a few free slushies then thought he'd bring his entire squad down there not realizing that he was gonna get it shut down. Remember, most young servicemembers are still kids and stupid just like any other 19 or 20 year old kid.

I'm not defending their actions whatsoever. They should have just paid when they were asked with no disrespect at all. I loathe anybody who plays the "do you know who I am" card. Those people deserve a slushie over their head.
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:45 PM   #52
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They sound like dirty cops.
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:46 PM   #53
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I think it's strange how much ppl worship veterans but then shit on cops. Cops are doing something similar, protecting the streets, patrolling in our own neighborhoods but ppl shit on them. But really, each of them get paid, each of them is doing their job, both putting their life on the line. Just one is worshiped, the other is not
Cops get free drinks at every convenience store I've ever frequented. Cops are great and deserve respect but it's not like they're having bombs lobbed at them or driving over IED infested roads either. I know a lot of cops and while they could work a life-threatening event at any moment, there really aren't too many of those in the grand scheme. I'm sure a cop wouldn't trade places (and paychecks) with any servicemember in a combat theater ever.
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:49 PM   #54
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oh yeah, youve never been in the Chiefs Planet packages for troops thread.
Color me confused, I really must admit to not knowing anything about that. I spent a lot of cash sending out packages from our church if that's any consolation. Sorry about that man.
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:50 PM   #55
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The military is paid better than you may remember Phil, especially during deployments.
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:50 PM   #56
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Granted I've likely been shot at (though not accurately, Thank God) a few more times than most cops and have had to fire back (or first) more than most, but to say the military isn't well paid is just false.

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I think it's strange how much ppl worship veterans but then shit on cops. Cops are doing something similar, protecting the streets, patrolling in our own neighborhoods but ppl shit on them. But really, each of them get paid, each of them is doing their job, both putting their life on the line. Just one is worshiped, the other is not
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Old 06-20-2012, 01:03 PM   #58
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The military is paid better than you may remember Phil, especially during deployments.
I didn't think I was paid all that bad once I made Sgt. I still think full-time cops do a lot better than all but the most senior enlisted and officers.
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I didn't think I was paid all that bad once I made Sgt. I still think full-time cops do a lot better than all but the most senior enlisted and officers.
If you're talking about simply base pay, I would agree, but add in all of the other bennies (free health care, BAQ, BAS, etc) and I would bet it tips the scale well in favor of the military guys (and that's not even adding in any deployment type pay).
Police officer pay would also vary (I assume) on location but when I got out I applied for a job as a police officer in a town near where I live (population approximately 25,000) but when they offered the job, the money just wasn't there.
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I think it's strange how much ppl worship veterans but then shit on cops. Cops are doing something similar, protecting the streets, patrolling in our own neighborhoods but ppl shit on them. But really, each of them get paid, each of them is doing their job, both putting their life on the line. Just one is worshiped, the other is not
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