Chiefs If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick. - Page 174

ShowtimeSBMVP · 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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**OnTheWarpath15** · 05-19-2013, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Mark Sanchez is a game manager who might not even start this year.

Alex Smith has been getting better since he came in the league. I'll take my chances with him over the Sanchize.

Again, reading is fundamental.

I'm not advocating for Sanchez.

And better than bad after 8 years certainly does not equal good.

G'night, troll.

Hammock Parties · 05-19-2013, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

The people who are saying we have no chance to get to a SB with Alex Smith because he's a "game manager" are the same people who like Sanchez.

Sanchez had the exact same role in 2009 and 2010. He was a game manager who almost made the SB.

No one around here likes Sanchez.

Maybe 3 years ago.

Not today.

Of course the funny thing is even though he's a shitty QB...even HE has thrown 20+ TD once.

**SAUTO** · 05-19-2013, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

The people who are saying we have no chance to get to a SB with Alex Smith because he's a "game manager" are the same people who like Sanchez.

Sanchez had the exact same role in 2009 and 2010. He was a game manager who almost made the SB.

we keep hearing how guys ALMOST got there.

Every time it was the ****ing qb that held them back.

That doesn't help your arguments guys.
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RunKC · 05-19-2013, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

we keep hearing how guys ALMOST got there.

Every time it was the ****ing qb that held them back.

That doesn't help your arguments guys.
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It can be done. Flacco just did it a 3 months ago.

Saccopoo · 05-19-2013, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Oh man if Geno Smith perseveres through all this bad shit in New York and winds up being a great QB...

Let's just say I'm going to be swinging my dick around this place even harder than I was during last season

I think he's going to be a pretty damn good QB when it's all said and done. They brought in Mornhinweg to revamp that offense, which he should do with a guy like Geno, who he spoke of recently:

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And then with Geno, he's highly talented, an outstanding young man, very bright and he's picked things up very, very quickly. I'm highly impressed with him in the three-day rookie minicamp.

After coaching the likes of Donovan McNabb, I think he and Geno will be a very nice fit with the Jets. Will let Ryan focus a bit more on the defense and be a head coach versus worrying about a Sanchez/Tebow controversy all season long. (And I'm pretty sure that Geno smokes Sanchez in the preseason. Sanchez once again finished in the bottom three of all QB's in the NFL in terms of ratings. Putrid QB.)

**SAUTO** · 05-19-2013, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

It can be done. Flacco just did it a 3 months ago.

flacco can actually stretch the defense.
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**SAUTO** · 05-19-2013, 05:52 PM

And flacco almost got them there and came back the next year and won the mother****er.

Who else you guys are using as examples has?

Flacco, Sanchez, Smith.

Who doesn't fit?
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Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-19-2013, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Sanchez might not even start this year. So there's that.

Cassel is lucky to even have a job in this league. So there's that.
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chiefzilla1501 · 05-19-2013, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I think he's going to be a pretty damn good QB when it's all said and done. They brought in Mornhinweg to revamp that offense, which he should do with a guy like Geno, who he spoke of recently:

After coaching the likes of Donovan McNabb, I think he and Geno will be a very nice fit with the Jets. Will let Ryan focus a bit more on the defense and be a head coach versus worrying about a Sanchez/Tebow controversy all season long. (And I'm pretty sure that Geno smokes Sanchez in the preseason. Sanchez once again finished in the bottom three of all QB's in the NFL in terms of ratings. Putrid QB.)

I don't think Geno will do very well. His attitude needs some serious adjustment and while Mornhinweig can help that, it's ultimately up to Rex Ryan to do that. And Ryan is maybe one of the worst at doing that. And it's not going to help that ESPN and company are going to do nothing but just add fuel to the Geno fire.

I get that talent evaluators are often wrong. Aaron Rodgers being a classic example. But the reasons Geno fell are a lot more alarming than other players, in my opinion. I get that people wanted him. But I don't get anyone who believe it was absolutely stupid to pass on him.

**DaFace** · 05-19-2013, 06:53 PM

Haven't clicked on this thread in 1000 posts or so. Is there anything of substance in here these days, or is this just the latest "Alex sucks" mega thread?

chiefzilla1501 · 05-19-2013, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Looking for his replacement while giving up a third, at least for the guy in the same year?

Good trade
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Let me ask you this. If Andy Reid is right about the future of the spread option / pistol offense and we end up being on the cutting edge, would it be worth the trade to have spent the first year tinkering with this offense with a QB who's well suited for this?

Even if Alex Smith isn't the answer, it's possible that he's the perfect stopgap for Andy Reid and company to develop a very progressive offense.

Let me be clear that I'm not a fan of Alex Smith, but really don't care about the trade as long as we end up with a legit franchise QB in 2-3 years.

**SAUTO** · 05-19-2013, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Let me ask you this. If Andy Reid is right about the future of the spread option / pistol offense and we end up being on the cutting edge, would it be worth the trade to have spent the first year tinkering with this offense with a QB who's well suited for this?

Even if Alex Smith isn't the answer, it's possible that he's the perfect stopgap for Andy Reid and company to develop a very progressive offense.

Let me be clear that I'm not a fan of Alex Smith, but really don't care about the trade as long as we end up with a legit franchise QB in 2-3 years.

I just think we gave up too much. Period
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BigCatDaddy · 05-19-2013, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

Haven't clicked on this thread in 1000 posts or so. Is there anything of substance in here these days, or is this just the latest "Alex sucks" mega thread?

A little bit. Apparently people are propping up Alex by saying he's better than Sanchez.

Rasputin · 05-19-2013, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Let me ask you this. If Andy Reid is right about the future of the spread option / pistol offense and we end up being on the cutting edge, would it be worth the trade to have spent the first year tinkering with this offense with a QB who's well suited for this?

Even if Alex Smith isn't the answer, it's possible that he's the perfect stopgap for Andy Reid and company to develop a very progressive offense.

Let me be clear that I'm not a fan of Alex Smith, but really don't care about the trade as long as we end up with a legit franchise QB in 2-3 years.

We could have cut to the chase and drafted our guy 1.1 and not waist 2-3 years on a stop gap quarterback. We would have a guy (hopefully) developed in that 2-3 year span and be on our way building a championship team.

But Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo why take a chance on a young quarterback when you can throw away draft picks on an Alex Smith who won't even last 3 years from being injured?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-19-2013, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

A little bit. Apparently people are propping up Alex by saying he's better than Sanchez.

And yet, the Snatchz managed to match Axl's output in his first two years in the pros...so there's that. Too...
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ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $3496009	If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick. A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season. So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way. Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...#ixzz2SWCd8Gea
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