Damon Huard... The Rest of the Story

jspchief · 09-18-2006, 08:43 AM

This thread is for those of you that came away from the Denver game excited about what Damon Huard did. I wanted to put some perspective on his performance.

Throws he made that were longer than 6 yards: 5
Completions made beyond 6 yards: 1

Huard threw the ball further than 6 yards downfield only 5 times, one was complete, one was a drop by an open man, and the other 3 were bad throws (either off target, into coverage, or both).

He had a high completion percentage. Any NFL QB who throws 80% of their passes within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage is going to accomplish that. Statistically, it was a good peformance. But the results were of little value. It's like saying a RB that averages 3.4 ypc carry is good because that means he'll get a first down after every three carries... Statistically it makes sense, but in real life execution it doesn't work that way.

It does us no good to have a high completion QB that leads an ineffective offense. We had two scoring drives all day, and zero scoring drives in the second half. This is not going to win us many games.

**HemiEd** · 09-18-2006, 08:53 AM

This offense is the closest thing I have seen to training wheels since Marv Levy's "Winged T."

JBucc · 09-18-2006, 08:55 AM

The leash he is on makes Plummer's leash look like Brett Favre's.

Archie F. Swin · 09-18-2006, 08:57 AM

Upon further review, Huard did not fumble the ball on Denver's six.

**HemiEd** · 09-18-2006, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JBucc

The leash he is on makes Plummer's leash look like Brett Favre's.

I am not sure I would call it a leash, just an admission that our Tackles can not hold a block long enough to be effective past 5 yards. No more seven step drops until this line improves.

jspchief · 09-18-2006, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin

Upon further review, Huard did not fumble the ball on Denver's six.

Thanks for that completely irrelevant tidbit.

JBucc · 09-18-2006, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd

I am not sure I would call it a leash, just an admission that our Tackles can not hold a block long enough to be effective past 5 yards. No more seven step drops until this line improves.

I would've at least liked to have given Sampson a chance to show he can pass block. Oh well at least we'll get a win vs. San Fran.(I hope)

htismaqe · 09-18-2006, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd

I am not sure I would call it a leash, just an admission that our Tackles can not hold a block long enough to be effective past 5 yards. No more seven step drops until this line improves.

Yep.

Archie F. Swin · 09-18-2006, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief

Thanks for that completely irrelevant tidbit.

Looks to me like you're associating Damon's lack of long balls to a loss in Denver. I'm just offering up another [probably more significant] reason why we lost

Shag · 09-18-2006, 09:06 AM

Additionally, after halftime, Huard completed passes totaling 45 yards (37 of that on one play), and ~~ZERO~~ ONE first down.

JBucc · 09-18-2006, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shag

Additionally, after halftime, Huard completed passes totaling 45 yards (37 of that on one play), and ZERO first downs.

Since he had a 37 yard play he would have to have had at least one first down.

Shag · 09-18-2006, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBucc

Since he had a 37 yard play he would have to have had at least one first down.

Details, details. Oops...

**the Talking Can** · 09-18-2006, 09:10 AM

Herm is responsible for us not trying - even once - to throw it in the end zone.

09-18-2006, 09:11 AM

FWIW, I've never suggested Huard is a world beater nor am I going to run out and buy a Huard jersey. I think he's a capable QB in the NFL (which means he's pretty darn talented) and the Chiefs won't lose games because of him.

My defense of Huard is due to the people who have insisted that the Chiefs will lose every game until Green returns. As we saw yesterday, that stance is ludicrous. You can whine about Huard's leash all day long. The FACT is that he EXECUTED as well as he could in a hostile environment with 2 questionable tackles. That's pretty impressive.

ChiefsFanatic · 09-18-2006, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief

This thread is for those of you that came away from the Denver game excited about what Damon Huard did. I wanted to put some perspective on his performance.

Throws he made that were longer than 6 yards: 5
Completions made beyond 6 yards: 1

Huard threw the ball further than 6 yards downfield only 5 times, one was complete, one was a drop by an open man, and the other 3 were bad throws (either off target, into coverage, or both).

He had a high completion percentage. Any NFL QB who throws 80% of their passes within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage is going to accomplish that. Statistically, it was a good peformance. But the results were of little value. It's like saying a RB that averages 3.4 ypc carry is good because that means he'll get a first down after every three carries... Statistically it makes sense, but in real life execution it doesn't work that way.

It does us no good to have a high completion QB that leads an ineffective offense. We had two scoring drives all day, and zero scoring drives in the second half. This is not going to win us many games.

I thought he did well, especially in the fourth quarter when he hit every defensive linemen in the hands. If they could catch, his completion percentage would have been even better..........................oh, wait............

09-18-2006, 08:43 AM
jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	Damon Huard... The Rest of the Story This thread is for those of you that came away from the Denver game excited about what Damon Huard did. I wanted to put some perspective on his performance. Throws he made that were longer than 6 yards: 5 Completions made beyond 6 yards: 1 Huard threw the ball further than 6 yards downfield only 5 times, one was complete, one was a drop by an open man, and the other 3 were bad throws (either off target, into coverage, or both). He had a high completion percentage. Any NFL QB who throws 80% of their passes within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage is going to accomplish that. Statistically, it was a good peformance. But the results were of little value. It's like saying a RB that averages 3.4 ypc carry is good because that means he'll get a first down after every three carries... Statistically it makes sense, but in real life execution it doesn't work that way. It does us no good to have a high completion QB that leads an ineffective offense. We had two scoring drives all day, and zero scoring drives in the second half. This is not going to win us many games.
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Phobia Guest Casino cash: $	FWIW, I've never suggested Huard is a world beater nor am I going to run out and buy a Huard jersey. I think he's a capable QB in the NFL (which means he's pretty darn talented) and the Chiefs won't lose games because of him. My defense of Huard is due to the people who have insisted that the Chiefs will lose every game until Green returns. As we saw yesterday, that stance is ludicrous. You can whine about Huard's leash all day long. The FACT is that he EXECUTED as well as he could in a hostile environment with 2 questionable tackles. That's pretty impressive.
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