****The Official NEW new new conference realignment & shit talk thread****

[Saul Good]

Let's do it.

[warpaint*]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

I just read that Sagarin was still tweaking his formula after the season had started. How can any system possibly justify this?

Does the poll know that the Wisc win is fraudulent?

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by warpaint*

Does the poll know that the Wisc win is fraudulent?

Sagarin is a Polish name?

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Is the SEC vastly overrated, or just having a down year? I fully admit that I thought Mizzou was going to get their asses kicked year in and year out in that conference.

Or, is Mizzou that much improved that they are in position to win their first conference title since the 60's?

Perhaps a combination of both?

Florida is down, and they are usually not. That's really the only difference.

The SEC has 10 teams out of 14 which are bowl-eligible. 3 teams in the top 5, 7 in the top 25. Half the conference is ranked - in what a lot of people are calling a down year, which should say something.

Of course I don't think Missouri is as good as Alabama or FSU, but if you look at our record, we do only have 1 loss and it was in double overtime with our backup QB.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Cochise

Florida is down, and they are usually not. That's really the only difference.

The SEC has 10 teams out of 14 which are bowl-eligible. 3 teams in the top 5, 7 in the top 25. Half the conference is ranked - in what a lot of people are calling a down year, which should say something.

Of course I don't think Missouri is as good as Alabama or FSU, but if you look at our record, we do only have 1 loss and it was in double overtime with our backup QB.

Mizzou has 3 wins this year that tell me they are absolutely legit.

Beating Ol' Miss on the road and really doing so in convincing fashion. The 14 point score was closer than the game; it never felt like Mizzou was challenged in that game.

The A&M win over an angry Manziel looking to put his stamp on his career.

The Vandy win. They housed an 8-4 football team on the road. That game was a slaughter and another one where Mizzou dicked around and let the score get a little closer than it was.

Mizzou's legitimately good. In fact, I'm not ready to say they're not as good as FSU. FSU has one good win and have otherwise dominated an awful ACC.

Any Saturday a team can have a bad game and watch their season go up in a puff of smoke. It could happen this Saturday as well. But Missouri is still a very good football team. They have a plus quarterback and the best group of skill position players (WR and RBs) in the country. If anyone disagrees with me there, go ahead and make your argument because I don't see anybody with the size, speed and skill, not to mention depth, that Mizzou has at WR and at RB. Going 5 deep with potential NFL WRs and 3 deep with HR hitters at RB is pretty damn uncommon.

We have a solid LB corps, the best DEs in the conference (arguably the country) and an experienced, healthy OL. Missouri is legitimately good.

[Prison Bitch]

I'll ask this again since it was never answered: if Auburn loses will the SEC allow them to be jumped in the bowl "pecking order" by the team they beat head to head in their rivalry game, finishing behind them in division?

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Is the SEC vastly overrated, or just having a down year? I fully admit that I thought Mizzou was going to get their asses kicked year in and year out in that conference.

Or, is Mizzou that much improved that they are in position to win their first conference title since the 60's?

Perhaps a combination of both?

It's a few things all coming together.

Mizzou might have its best team ever. We aren't as flashy on offense as we were in 2007, but we have a much better defense and a better running game.

I don't think you can attribute much to the SEC being down. There are still seven ranked teams (a record for most teams ranked to end the season) with three in the top five and four in the top 10.

We have been healthy on the lines this year, and we had the depth to overcome losing our most important offensive and defensive players for an extended period of time.

A lot of SEC haters/Big 12 apologists like to pretend that teams don't just get way better or way worse in two years. That is completely untrue, though. Baylor and Oklahoma State aren't exactly traditional powers, but they have dominated the conference.

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

I'll ask this again since it was never answered: if Auburn loses will the SEC allow them to be jumped in the bowl "pecking order" by the team they beat head to head in their rivalry game, finishing behind them in division?

We'll find out!

[Al Bundy]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

I'll ask this again since it was never answered: if Auburn loses will the SEC allow them to be jumped in the bowl "pecking order" by the team they beat head to head in their rivalry game, finishing behind them in division?

Hard to say, hopefully the S.E.C. isn't gutless like the Big 12 was.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

A lot of SEC haters/Big 12 apologists like to pretend that teams don't just get way better or way worse in two years. That is completely untrue, though. Baylor and Oklahoma State aren't exactly traditional powers, but they have dominated the conference.

So to recap: Baylor leaving the cellar to win in the Big 12 while a marquee program Texas hangs on at the end of the Top 25 = proof the Big 12 sucks and is in permanent decline.


Mizzou and Auburn leaving the dregs of 2-14 last year while a marquee program Florida becomes the single biggest national laughingstock = proof the SEC is great and has depth. Lmfao!

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Al Bundy

Hard to say, hopefully the S.E.C. isn't gutless like the Big 12 was.

Good to see you got the point on this, because some MU fans are having trouble with it.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Mizzou has 3 wins this year that tell me they are absolutely legit.

Beating Ol' Miss on the road and really doing so in convincing fashion. The 14 point score was closer than the game; it never felt like Mizzou was challenged in that game.

The A&M win over an angry Manziel looking to put his stamp on his career.

The Vandy win. They housed an 8-4 football team on the road. That game was a slaughter and another one where Mizzou dicked around and let the score get a little closer than it was.

Mizzou's legitimately good. In fact, I'm not ready to say they're not as good as FSU. FSU has one good win and have otherwise dominated an awful ACC.

Any Saturday a team can have a bad game and watch their season go up in a puff of smoke. It could happen this Saturday as well. But Missouri is still a very good football team. They have a plus quarterback and the best group of skill position players (WR and RBs) in the country. If anyone disagrees with me there, go ahead and make your argument because I don't see anybody with the size, speed and skill, not to mention depth, that Mizzou has at WR and at RB. Going 5 deep with potential NFL WRs and 3 deep with HR hitters at RB is pretty damn uncommon.

We have a solid LB corps, the best DEs in the conference (arguably the country) and an experienced, healthy OL. Missouri is legitimately good.

Missouri is legitimately good, but you are overrating the A&M victory. Manziel was a banged up shell of himself who couldn't run or throw anywhere close to his normal ability.

I agree with you about the skill position players and the DEs as a unit, but the LBers and safeties are a decided weakness. Wilson doesn't have the athleticism to play his position.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

If Florida was 11-1 and Missouri was 4-8 would people be saying that the SEC is having a down year?

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by Al Bundy

Hard to say, hopefully the S.E.C. isn't gutless like the Big 12 was.

It's really too bad that the automatic qualifier conferences can't have more than two teams, but that's a shortcoming of the BCS system. For this season, the fact that the smouldering wreck of the Big East is still automatic qualifier is a joke.

It will sting for Missouri to get left out while UCF gets in because of the moronic BCS structure if that's the way it plays out. But with the playoff coming and the future bright for our program, I don't think it's that big of a deal. Either you are in the title game or you're not.

[Al Bundy]

Originally Posted by Cochise

It's really too bad that the automatic qualifier conferences can't have more than two teams, but that's a shortcoming of the BCS system. For this season, the fact that the smouldering wreck of the Big East is still automatic qualifier is a joke.

It will sting for Missouri to get left out while UCF gets in because of the moronic BCS structure if that's the way it plays out. But with the playoff coming and the future bright for our program, I don't think it's that big of a deal. Either you are in the title game or you're not.

I am going to sit this one out because I am a UCF Knight.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If Florida was 11-1 and Missouri was 4-8 would people be saying that the SEC is having a down year?

Ask Saul, he is the only one I'm aware of that makes these type of arguments.