Misc Silly argument about paintings

**AustinChief** · 05-03-2012, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

So by that definition it would make me wrong, since "The Scream" isn't completely covered is it? I don't know...either way I'm still calling it a painting and **** him if he doesn't see it that way. I don't mind being wrong about that particular painting, but I'm at least going to be right in that there are such a thing as "pastel paintings", which he claims is wrong.

Also.. if you are wrong about the Scream.. then he would have to admit it is a Pastel Sketch? I doubt ANYONE would call it a sketch or drawing.

lcarus · 05-03-2012, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

Also.. if you are wrong about the Scream.. then he would have to admit it is a Pastel Sketch? I doubt ANYONE would call it a sketch or drawing.

Actually, my brother, who also works with my co-worker and I at our trophy shop, feels it is a drawing. He got caught listening to this dumb argument all day. Now the little shit is registering here. Be sure to welcome him with a big middle finger.

He found this on the internet and thinks that makes it NOT a painting, though I feel it's just a writer trying to explain to the public that it isn't a traditional painting done with brush and oil paint, though it's still technically a pastel painting. The pigments used to make pastels is the same exact pigments used to make oil paint...

Munch's "The Scream" achieved another milestone: It now ranks as the most expensive drawing publicly sold. For this version of “The Scream” -- one of four -- is best described as a crayon or pastel drawing, not a painting, on board. The Munch Museum in Oslo owns a pastel as well as a painted version, while the National Gallery of Norway holds the earliest painting, dated 1893.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...,3775078.story

**AustinChief** · 05-03-2012, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

Actually, my brother, who also works with my co-worker and I at our trophy shop, feels it is a drawing. He got caught listening to this dumb argument all day. Now the little shit is registering here. Be sure to welcome him with a big middle finger.

He found this on the internet and thinks that makes it NOT a painting, though I feel it's just a writer trying to explain to the public that it isn't a traditional painting done with brush and oil paint, though it's still technically a pastel painting. The pigments used to make pastels is the same exact pigments used to make oil paint...

Munch's "The Scream" achieved another milestone: It now ranks as the most expensive drawing publicly sold. For this version of “The Scream” -- one of four -- is best described as a crayon or pastel drawing, not a painting, on board. The Munch Museum in Oslo owns a pastel as well as a painted version, while the National Gallery of Norway holds the earliest painting, dated 1893.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...,3775078.story

The end of this argument should have been when it was shown that there are 3 or 4 societies that have been around for many years that are dedicated to this medium... and they define it as pastel painting. (unless of course you use pastels to make a drawing... which this is not)

yes, it is not an OIL painting... it is still a painting just like a watercolor is.

lcarus · 05-03-2012, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

The end of this argument should have been when it was shown that there are 3 or 4 societies that have been around for many years that are dedicated to this medium... and they define it as pastel painting. (unless of course you use pastels to make a drawing... which this is not)

yes, it is not an OIL painting... it is still a painting just like a watercolor is.

Yeah lol, I emailed an art instructor at San Diego Art Institute this:

Me: Is it wrong to consider the pastel version of "The Scream" a painting? I know it isn't a traditional painting, made with paint and a brush, but aren't pastels still referred to as paintings? Does a "painting" have to be made strictly with paint? Can't a painting be made with pastel, resins, or pastes?

He responded with this:

Him: You are correct a “painting” can be created from a number of different materials and does not strictly need to be made from paint- it can also be colored pencils, chaulk pastels, oil pastels, and even collage or any combination of the items.

I bet that still won't be good enough though.....