Worrisome things: Offensive Line

[Hoover]

He didn't sign a 4 year deal worth 16 million.

Mays signed 2 years for 6 million.

We can get out of the Mays deal without much pain, Schwartz not so much.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Hoover

He didn't sign a 4 year deal worth 16 million.

Mays signed 2 years for 6 million.

We can get out of the Mays deal without much pain, Schwartz not so much.

Mays' cap # is a whopping 400k less than Schwartz this year and has a whopping $2mil less in guaranteed money. The savings are just insane!!!! Especially considering you get a guy as good as Joe Mays. He's sure to finish the year and not cause 50 penalties a game.

[Hoover]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Mays' cap # is a whopping 400k less than Schwartz this year and has a whopping $2mil less in guaranteed money. The savings are just insane!!!! Especially considering you get a guy as good as Joe Mays. He's sure to finish the year and not cause 50 penalties a game.

yeah, because he has a two year deal and Schwartz has a 4 year deal. You can't just look at the 2014 cap hit, you have to look at the entirety of the contract.

You sound like the dumb ass that goes into a car dealership and negotiates a deal based entirely on the monthly payment and not the total price of the car.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Hoover

yeah, because he has a two year deal and Schwartz has a 4 year deal. You can't just look at the 2014 cap hit, you have to look at the entirety of the contract.

You sound like the dumb ass that goes into a car dealership and negotiates a deal based entirely on the monthly payment and not the total price of the car.

Joe Mays' cap hit next year will only be 900k less. Keep trying to act like Schwartz got a monster deal and we couldn't have possibly fit him in the budget.

Cut Mays next year, save $3mil. Cut Schwartz next year, save $2.5mil.

Just already.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Joe Mays' cap hit next year will only be 900k less. Keep trying to act like Schwartz got a monster deal and we couldn't have possibly fit him in the budget.

Cut Mays next year, save $3mil. Cut Schwartz next year, save $2.5mil.

Just already.

Yep! I did the math also back when Schwartz signed with NYG and KC signed Mays and just shook my head in disbelief. The Schwartz contract is not out of line and had KC retained him, they would be much better off. Choosing not to sign Schwartz was the wrong decision for many reasons. Had they kept him and not lost out on the Sanders deal, KC would be in business.

[Hoover]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Joe Mays' cap hit next year will only be 900k less. Keep trying to act like Schwartz got a monster deal and we couldn't have possibly fit him in the budget.

Cut Mays next year, save $3mil. Cut Schwartz next year, save $2.5mil.

Just already.

Again, you are only looking at the first year of the deal, i.e. a car payment instead of the total cost.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Hoover

Again, you are only looking at the first year of the deal, i.e. a car payment instead of the total cost.

You're dumb.

A football contract is not a baseball contract. A football contract is worth as much as its guaranteed money. In this case its $2mil for Mays and $4.7mil for Schwartz.

Keep acting like Schwartz got a huge deal.

[Hoover]

Originally Posted by jd1020

You're dumb.

A football contract is not a baseball contract. A football contract is worth as much as its guaranteed money. In this case its $2mil for Mays and $4.7mil for Schwartz.

Keep acting like Schwartz got a huge deal.

Yeah, over twice as much. I don't agree with giving Mays a 2 million signing bonus, seems extreme, but Schwartz wanted a multiple year contract.

[Easy 6]

My biggest concern for the line is Fishers health, if that elbow and shoulder hold up I believe he'll be fine back at his natural position, he graded as a true first rounder for a reason and as long as he's working hard he'll live up to that IMO.

Whats nice is that if he pans out like I think, we'll have pretty damn decent bookends.

[Hoover]

The main thing Schwartz wanted was a multi year deal. I don't blame him, but there was no way he was going to be signed to another short term deal by the Chiefs.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Hoover

He didn't sign a 4 year deal worth 16 million.

Mays signed 2 years for 6 million.

We can get out of the Mays deal without much pain, Schwartz not so much.

That's the way I see it. If you look at the Chiefs' free agency strategy, they seem to be looking for a lot of stopgaps. Fasano, Avery, DeVito, Daniel, Mays, Sean Smith... he seems to want free agents who can fill in for a year or two, but who can ultimately be replaced when the draft or bargain bin finds a replacement. That means he doesn't really care if they're great, just solid enough to not be a complete liability. Over time, I'd expect to see a lot less Joe Mays type contracts.

You're absolutely right. Joe Mays was brought in purely as a stopgap. It wouldn't surprise me if we canned him next year. If we signed Schwartz, it would be intended to be a long-term contract.