Redskin trade for the number 2 pick Goodbye RGIII

[lostcause]

Originally Posted by R8ers

3 minus 1 = 2 even in KC

But the redskins didn't give up 2 first rounders, they gave up 3. It ain't brain surgery, son.

[Dylan]

Three first rounds and second round is mortgaging the future -- A lot of pressure. Griffin better be a game changing franchise quarterback.

Washington has money to spend. They will need to put an offensive line together through free agency to protect their young quarterback. They must feel confident - Griffin is going to be playing their division rivals twice next year. And he could face a difficult time against their elite pass rushers.

On offense, Washington needs wide receivers. Fred Davis is good, but I think he is UFA. I remember their defense played well last season except for the secondary. Washington might lose Fletcher. I could be wrong.

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Wouldn't it be funny if Goodell takes away their first round pick due to bounty-gate?

[FAX]

Originally Posted by Dylan

Three first rounds and second round is mortgaging the future -- A lot of pressure. Griffin better be a game changing franchise quarterback.

Washington has money to spend. They will need to put an offensive line together through free agency to protect their young quarterback. They must feel confident - Griffin is going to be playing their division rivals twice next year. And he could face a difficult time against their elite pass rushers.

On offense, Washington needs wide receivers. Fred Davis is good, but I think he is UFA. I remember their defense played well last season except for the secondary. Washington might lose Fletcher. I could be wrong.

Home games: New York Giants, Philadelphia, Dallas, Atlanta, Carolina, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Minnesota

Away games: New York Giants, Philadelphia, Dallas, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, St. Louis

Wouldn't it be funny if Goodell takes away their first round pick due to bounty-gate?

As usual, your out-of-the-box thinking may be on to something, Ms. Dylan.

Many of us scientists and blood donors have been curious why they would do this deal so early. However, if there is a risk that the Skins were to be caught up in BountyGate, that might explain it.

It would be much more difficult for the NFL to take away a pick that's already been traded.

FAX

[Dylan]

Originally Posted by FAX

As usual, your out-of-the-box thinking may be on to something, Ms. Dylan.

Many of us scientists and blood donors have been curious why they would do this deal so early. However, if there is a risk that the Skins were to be caught up in BountyGate, that might explain it.

It would be much more difficult for the NFL to take away a pick that's already been traded.

FAX

Mr. Fax:

Thanks to (possibly) dotting the "I's" and crossing the "T's."

[luv]

Guess that means they're out of the Manning hunt, huh?

[R8RFAN]

You Snooze You Lose

[Dylan]

Washington Post

Posted at 11:47 PM ET, 03/09/2012
Washington Redskins acquire No. 2 pick in NFL Draft in trade with St. Louis Rams

Redskins pay high price to get their QB

Well, that settles that, then. Count the Washington Redskins out on Peyton Manning and count them in, big on Robert Griffin III. Adam Schefter reports that Washington has agreed to trade its next three first-round picks plus this year's second-round pick to the St. Louis Rams in exchange for the No. 2 overall pick in this year's draft. With Indianapolis expected to take Andrew Luck No. 1 overall and the Redskins desperate for a quarterback, we are left to presume they will use that pick to draft Griffin, the Heisman Trophy winner out of Baylor, to be their quarterback of the future.

It isn't surprising that the Redskins are trading up for Griffin. They wanted him badly, and there are few if any teams in the league that need help at quarterback more than they do. What's shocking is the price. To move up four spots in this year's draft, they are trading away first-rounders in 2013 and 2014, as well as a second-rounder in 2012. It feels like too much, and it puts a heck of a lot of pressure on Griffin. They're basically going to draft him and tell him, "All right. It's all yours. But we don't have a first-round pick in either of the next two years with which to help you out."

Read here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...1Q2R_blog.html

[R8RFAN]

Originally Posted by Dylan

Washington Post

Posted at 11:47 PM ET, 03/09/2012
Washington Redskins acquire No. 2 pick in NFL Draft in trade with St. Louis Rams

Redskins pay high price to get their QB

Well, that settles that, then. Count the Washington Redskins out on Peyton Manning and count them in, big on Robert Griffin III. Adam Schefter reports that Washington has agreed to trade its next three first-round picks plus this year's second-round pick to the St. Louis Rams in exchange for the No. 2 overall pick in this year's draft. With Indianapolis expected to take Andrew Luck No. 1 overall and the Redskins desperate for a quarterback, we are left to presume they will use that pick to draft Griffin, the Heisman Trophy winner out of Baylor, to be their quarterback of the future.

It isn't surprising that the Redskins are trading up for Griffin. They wanted him badly, and there are few if any teams in the league that need help at quarterback more than they do. What's shocking is the price. To move up four spots in this year's draft, they are trading away first-rounders in 2013 and 2014, as well as a second-rounder in 2012. It feels like too much, and it puts a heck of a lot of pressure on Griffin. They're basically going to draft him and tell him, "All right. It's all yours. But we don't have a first-round pick in either of the next two years with which to help you out."

Read here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...1Q2R_blog.html

Could somebody tell me what the net loss in first round picks will be for the Redskins, Does that look like 3 first round picks or does that look like 2 first rounders and a second...

[lostcause]

Originally Posted by R8ers

Could somebody tell me what the net loss in first round picks will be for the Redskins, Does that look like 3 first round picks or does that look like 2 first rounders and a second...

Alright, if they weren't trading away 3 first rounders, then they would have two picks in the first round in 2012, wouldn't they?

[R8RFAN]

Originally Posted by lostcause

Alright, if they weren't trading away 3 first rounders, then they would have two picks in the first round in 2012, wouldn't they?

Read it again real slow....

[lostcause]

Originally Posted by R8ers

Read it again real slow....

ok, so they are not trading away their 2012 1st rounder?

[FAX]

Originally Posted by R8ers

Read it again real slow....

I see your logic, but it's a little faulty. We shall try once more ...

Let's say I have 10 homies and 2 bitch hos.

Now, let's say I ass cap 3 homies and 1 bitch ho. Okay? How many homies and bitch hos do I have remaining in my posse?

FAX

[lostcause]

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...on-week-16-win

our world may hurt - but this is a brutal last game of the season win to forget about.

It's been clear for some time that the Minnesota Vikings wouldn't be in position to trade their No. 3 overall pick to a team that wanted to draft Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin III. Griffin's performance in last month's NFL scouting combine sealed his spot as the second-best player in the draft, and on Friday night the St. Louis Rams traded the No. 2 pick to the Washington Redskins for a bounty that will make Vikings fans rue the day their team dropped from contention for the No. 2 pick themselves.

As you assuredly know, the Vikings were on track to have the NFL's second-worst record before they defeated the Redskins 33-26 in Week 16. (Tailback Adrian Peterson also suffered a major knee injury in that game, an unrelated but no less serious event.) After Friday night's trade, we now know the difference between winning and losing that game was two future first-round picks and a second-rounder.

That's the premium the Redskins paid the Rams to swap first-rounders in 2012, presumably to draft Griffin. With Andrew Luck and Griffin expected to go 1-2 in the draft, it's far less likely that a market will emerge for the Vikings' spot at No. 3. If it does, the bounty will be nothing close to what the Rams got from the Redskins.

Obviously, I'm not suggesting the Vikings should have done anything other than play to win against the Redskins. I'm not a proponent of tanking. In the end, that game was just another chapter in the star-crossed history of this franchise. The Vikings will do well to draft USC left tackle Matt Kalil at No. 3 next month, but they missed out on an opportunity to jump-start their rebuilding process with a rare volume of high draft picks in the coming years. Such is life.

[Dr. Gigglepants]

Originally Posted by lostcause

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...on-week-16-win

our world may hurt - but this is a brutal last game of the season win to forget about.

It's been clear for some time that the Minnesota Vikings wouldn't be in position to trade their No. 3 overall pick to a team that wanted to draft Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin III. Griffin's performance in last month's NFL scouting combine sealed his spot as the second-best player in the draft, and on Friday night the St. Louis Rams traded the No. 2 pick to the Washington Redskins for a bounty that will make Vikings fans rue the day their team dropped from contention for the No. 2 pick themselves.

As you assuredly know, the Vikings were on track to have the NFL's second-worst record before they defeated the Redskins 33-26 in Week 16. (Tailback Adrian Peterson also suffered a major knee injury in that game, an unrelated but no less serious event.) After Friday night's trade, we now know the difference between winning and losing that game was two future first-round picks and a second-rounder.

That's the premium the Redskins paid the Rams to swap first-rounders in 2012, presumably to draft Griffin. With Andrew Luck and Griffin expected to go 1-2 in the draft, it's far less likely that a market will emerge for the Vikings' spot at No. 3. If it does, the bounty will be nothing close to what the Rams got from the Redskins.

Obviously, I'm not suggesting the Vikings should have done anything other than play to win against the Redskins. I'm not a proponent of tanking. In the end, that game was just another chapter in the star-crossed history of this franchise. The Vikings will do well to draft USC left tackle Matt Kalil at No. 3 next month, but they missed out on an opportunity to jump-start their rebuilding process with a rare volume of high draft picks in the coming years. Such is life.

Next year you are going to see multiple teams obviously tanking towards the end of the year. There are a few qb's coming out who could get a haul of draft picks just like this.
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[R8RFAN]

they are trading away first-rounders in 2013 and 2014 and SWAPPING 1ST ROUNDERS THIS YEAR along with a 2nd.