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[FAX]

So ... let's say that the Chiefs draft a good QB ...

Is Roleo the man you want developing that guy?

Zorn will likely be gone since he was unable to magically convert Cassel into a quarterback.

FAX

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Originally Posted by FAX

So ... let's say that the Chiefs draft a good QB ...

Is Roleo the man you want developing that guy?

Zorn will likely be gone since he was unable to magically convert Cassel into a quarterback.

FAX

I don't subscribe to the theory that Coaches make QB's.

I believe it's the opposite.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

I don't subscribe to the theory that Coaches make QB's.

I believe it's the opposite.

So the rookie comes in fully cooked?

FAX

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Originally Posted by FAX

So the rookie comes in fully cooked?

FAX

Great prospects will develop into great players, despite whatever coaching is there.

You think the many, many OC's Cassel has had have failed to teach Cassel how to go through his progressions?

Or do you think that Cassel simply isn't talented enough to do it, despite being taught?

What great QB did the Colts staff "create"? Outside of Manning, If you want to credit them for that, no one.

Patriots?

Niners?

How long did it take the Steelers to find one?

Saints?

The QB either has greatness in him, or he doesn't. He'll either figure it out, or he won't.

I assure you, Tony Dungy didn't "develop" Peyton Manning.

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Great prospects will develop into great players, despite whatever coaching is there.

You think the many, many OC's Cassel has had have failed to teach Cassel how to go through his progressions?

Or do you think that Cassel simply isn't talented enough to do it, despite being taught?

What great QB did the Colts staff "create"? Outside of Manning, If you want to credit them for that, no one.

Patriots?

Niners?

How long did it take the Steelers to find one?

Saints?

The QB either has greatness in him, or he doesn't. He'll either figure it out, or he won't.

I assure you, Tony Dungy didn't "develop" Peyton Manning.

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I don't subscribe to the theory that Coaches make QB's.

I believe it's the opposite.

Jim Harbaugh is on the line, he wants to talk about Alex Smith

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Originally Posted by FAX

So ... let's say that the Chiefs draft a good QB ...

Is Roleo the man you want developing that guy?

Zorn will likely be gone since he was unable to magically convert Cassel into a quarterback.

FAX

. I wouldn't let Pioli--let's be honest, everything is about Pioli when it comes to the Chiefs, and thus the coaches don't matter--watch my dogs.

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Originally Posted by FAX

So ... let's say that the Chiefs draft a good QB ...

Is Roleo the man you want developing that guy?

Zorn will likely be gone since he was unable to magically convert Cassel into a quarterback.

FAX

I don't really care. Coaching makes the team, but it rarely can account for deficiencies in the player. Unless you're Jim Harbaugh, the QB that gets drafted is either going to be really good or really terrible.

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Originally Posted by SNR

I don't really care. Coaching makes the team, but it rarely can account for deficiencies in the player. Unless you're Jim Harbaugh, the QB that gets drafted is either going to be really good or really terrible.

This.

Great QB's carry shit HC's all the damn time.

I can't really recall seeing the opposite.

I can't wait till Brady retires. I wanna see how good Belichick REALLY is.

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

This.

Great QB's carry shit HC's all the damn time.

I can't really recall seeing the opposite.

I can't wait till Brady retires. I wanna see how good Belichick REALLY is.

He is smart. He will retire, and later come back as a GM or President of football operation somewhere else.

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

This.

Great QB's carry shit HC's all the damn time.

I can't really recall seeing the opposite.

I can't wait till Brady retires. I wanna see how good Belichick REALLY is.

Harbaugh and Smith is the only example that comes to mind, really.

Some people might make the case of Andy Reid, but even then that's not really all that strong of an example.

And agreed about the Patriots. Bill is starting to look a bit old and crusty. He's put in a lot of years as an HC. I'm wondering if he doesn't just close up shop when Brady retires. I would hate that because I wouldn't get to see how he would do without his precious. Something tells me Ryan Mallett isn't a good long term answer for the team at all.