Likely to be the finalized staff...

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by Dave

Who was available?

Kiffin wasn't interested. Which was good.

The guy most of us liked, Rivera is staying with the Panthers.

No one likes Rob Ryan.

I was interested in Greene from GB, but he's never been a DC.

That is true, I'm just hoping Reid has learned from his mistakes.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

That is true, I'm just hoping Reid has learned from his mistakes.

I'm going to wait and see how it goes.

I do like the idea of playing a 1-gap.

[PunkinDrublic]

I just remember Chris Berman calling him Eric "sleeping with" Bienemy on the NFL countdown highlights.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Dave

Who was available?

Kiffin wasn't interested. Which was good.

The guy most of us liked, Rivera is staying with the Panthers.

No one likes Rob Ryan.

I was interested in Greene from GB, but he's never been a DC.

THIS.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I really like the defensive lineup of coaches. I like Brasher, and wanted to keep Gibbs and Thomas. Special teams coach is a coup in my eyes. I'm pretty happy. We'll just have to play wait and see with Sutton. He goes 1 gap and brings an attacking defense, I think we can do very well.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Is this all really official anyway?

[DTLB58]

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

Is this all really official anyway?

@kcchiefs: Chiefs Name Bob Sutton as Defensive Coordinator - http://t.co/P1iesvLy #Chiefs
@kcchiefs: Chiefs Hire Doug Pederson as Offensive Coordinator - http://t.co/lGgF2CWS #Chiefs
@kcchiefs: Chiefs Announce Coaching Staff Hires - http://t.co/ohZAnskJ #Chiefs

[Dante84]

David Culley has served as the Eagles wide receivers coach since 1999, Andy Reid's first season as head coach, and has been a valuable contributor to the Eagles' offensive success. He was promoted to senior offensive assistant/wide receivers coach in 2011. In this role, Culley will continue to play a vital role in assisting offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg and the remainder of the offensive staff in formulating all aspects of the offensive game plan on a weekly basis.

http://legacy.philadelphiaeagles.com..._culley_1.html

Jeremy Maclin, come on down!

[Hoover]

I have a number of fears about switching back to the 4-3.

1. It creates some major needs on defense. The last time we switched schemes we used the #3 pick on Tyson Jackson... Would have to see a defense "need" prevent us from taking a QB.

2. When you look at all the DC names we heard of most of them run the cover 2. I think that's an outdated defense, especially against running qbs. While I'd love to have Lovie Smith, I don't want to see the cover two back in KC.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Hoover

I have a number of fears about switching back to the 4-3.

1. It creates some major needs on defense. The last time we switched schemes we used the #3 pick on Tyson Jackson... Would have to see a defense "need" prevent us from taking a QB.

2. When you look at all the DC names we heard of most of them run the cover 2. I think that's an outdated defense, especially against running qbs. While I'd love to have Lovie Smith, I don't want to see the cover two back in KC.

Tyson is going to have to rework his deal. Yeah, he improved last year, but that ****er isn't getting 17 millio of Hunt dollars for his body of work to date. It's still a huge question mark if he'll be back.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Tyson is going to have to rework his deal. Yeah, he improved last year.

He got considerably worse.

By a LOT.

Don't want to see people saying he improved. It's not true.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by GoWalrus

He got considerably worse.

By a LOT.

Don't want to see people saying he improved. It's not true.

He and others were progressing before last season. Although I want Jackson gone, I almost want to erase this past season as an evaluation of a lot of these players. It's obvious that the leadership, coaching wise, was completely screwed up.
A lot of turnover is coming, but there's a lot of guys who I want to be evaluated under new leadership before getting rid of. We all know how important coaching is in this league, and it's as if it was non-existent this past season.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Hoover

I have a number of fears about switching back to the 4-3.

1. It creates some major needs on defense. The last time we switched schemes we used the #3 pick on Tyson Jackson... Would have to see a defense "need" prevent us from taking a QB.

2. When you look at all the DC names we heard of most of them run the cover 2. I think that's an outdated defense, especially against running qbs. While I'd love to have Lovie Smith, I don't want to see the cover two back in KC.

It doesn't create needs, it just moves them.

Right now we need to 3 'box' defenders; 2 DEs and an ILB. If we switched to the 4-3, we'd need 2 'box' defenders, IMO and 3 at worst - 2 OLBs and maybe a NT. Houston and Hali would move to DEs with Poe in the undertackle role. I think Powe could be a very good 4-3 Nose, so I'm not sure that's a true need if you switch to a 4-3.

It doesn't create any holes, it just moves them. We did a shit job at converting to the 3-4 anyway; most of the guys we had in it weren't all that well suited for it and one guy that was (Jackson) actually sucked a great deal. I'd go back to the 4-3 and focus on creating pressure from my down lineman like the Giants did to win the SB.

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It doesn't create needs, it just moves them.

Right now we need to 3 'box' defenders; 2 DEs and an ILB. If we switched to the 4-3, we'd need 2 'box' defenders, IMO and 3 at worst - 2 OLBs and maybe a NT. Houston and Hali would move to DEs with Poe in the undertackle role. I think Powe could be a very good 4-3 Nose, so I'm not sure that's a true need if you switch to a 4-3.

It doesn't create any holes, it just moves them. We did a shit job at converting to the 3-4 anyway; most of the guys we had in it weren't all that well suited for it and one guy that was (Jackson) actually sucked a great deal. I'd go back to the 4-3 and focus on creating pressure from my down lineman like the Giants did to win the SB.

Rapoti is good to go at 34RDE and Tyson J is far from suckage at 34LDE. you put these men in a 1 plus 2 gap scheme and they will get you pressure along with Poe up the middle. Add in Hali/Houston and you have a pass rush.

You swap this team out to 43 D and you have to start over in the pass rush dept.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

Rapoti is good to go at 34RDE and Tyson J is far from suckage at 34RDE. you put these men in a 1/2 gap scheme and they will get you pressure. Add in Hali/Houston and you have a pass rush.

You swap this team out to 43 D and you have to start over in the pass rush dept.

Huh?

Did we watch the same team last year?

No, Pitoitua is not 'good go go'; he's an adequate stop gap that should be no more than a situational player. He's only 'good to go' if you mean 'the hell away'. He's exceptionally replaceable.

As to Jackson, no, he is not far from suckage. He is an awful football player who has no technique and a pretty lousy motor.

And finally, no, they would not have to start over at pass-rusher if they converted to a 4-3 - they have Hali and Houston. Houston is a better version of Chris Clemons and Hali is the same guy that was drafted as a 4-3 DE, only now he's stronger than he used to be and has developed legitimate pass-rush moves. He's probably losing his first step a bit, however, so he's actually probably better suited to move back to the D-line as a down lineman where his route to the QB won't be quite as long as it is as a standup backer.