Football Is the overall talent level of the NFL in a "down" year?

**RealSNR** · 10-23-2013, 10:28 PM

And WTF does that mean?

Somebody showed me the podcast from Monday's PTI show. After Wilbon and Bob Ryan discussed the Donks loss, they moved to talking about the Chiefs as the last undefeated team in the 2nd segment. The question was "Are the Chiefs possibly the best team in the NFL?"

Bob Ryan did the usual, "No, who have they played, they seem to only squeak by bad teams instead of asserting dominance yadda yadda." He continued on, though, and said, "What this shows with the Chiefs being the NFL's last remaining unbeaten is that the overall talent level is down this year. There is a lack of truly dominant teams."

They continued the rest of the discussion without qualifying what that meant. Wilbon and Ryan both gave credit to Andy Reid and the KC D and oddly enough Alex Smith for telling the Niners to go **** themselves and continuing to win on a new team. So it wasn't all negative shit about the Chiefs.

My question is do you have any idea what Ryan possibly meant by this, and do you agree with it if you do?

Direckshun · 10-23-2013, 10:30 PM

I won't say that there's a lack of talent (WTF does that mean?), or that there's a lack of elite teams.

But the parity this year seems totally non existent.

You have three classes of teams right now about as clear as you've ever seen it. 10 teams are really good. 10 teams are absolute shit town. The gap between those two groups is hellaciously large.

It's pretty astonishing.

**Buehler445** · 10-23-2013, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I won't say that there's a lack of talent (WTF does that mean?), or that there's a lack of elite teams.

But the parity this year seems totally non existent.

You have three classes of teams right now about as clear as you've ever seen it. 10 teams are really good. 10 teams are absolute shit town. The gap between those two groups is hellaciously large.

It's pretty astonishing.

Yeah, the Vikes that played last night are every bit as bad as any team we've fielded in the past decade.

And Christ there have been some eggs laid this year by otherwise not terrible teams.

Ace Gunner · 10-23-2013, 10:38 PM

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Yeah, the Vikes that played last night are every bit as bad as any team we've fielded in the past decade.

And Christ there have been some eggs laid this year by otherwise not terrible teams.

steelers, cincy, niners.. did not expect those teams to falter

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-23-2013, 10:40 PM

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steelers, cincy, niners.. did not expect those teams to falter

2-4, 5-2, 5-2.

Falter?

-King- · 10-23-2013, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I won't say that there's a lack of talent (WTF does that mean?), or that there's a lack of elite teams.

But the parity this year seems totally non existent.

You have three classes of teams right now about as clear as you've ever seen it. 10 teams are really good. 10 teams are absolute shit town. The gap between those two groups is hellaciously large.

It's pretty astonishing.

How is this any different from any other year?

Direckshun · 10-23-2013, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

How is this any different from any other year?

Guess it's not. End thread!

Ace Gunner · 10-23-2013, 10:33 PM

I miss hits. I don't agree there aren't dominant teams this season. I think there are fewer this season. As clunky as the offense is, the Chiefs are dominating opponents imo. same with Broncos & Saints, Seattle..

Saccopoo · 10-23-2013, 10:37 PM

It means that Tom Brady isn't 7-0 and Manning just lost and they don't know the name of a single player on the Chiefs roster other than the coach, which means that the NFL now sucks.

Last year, the talent was crazy sick. There was a true East and West coast team battling it out in the Super Bowl and the Harbaugh brothers were the toast of the media.

Now, the ****ing slap dick Chiefs are kicking ass and the national media has been too ****ing lazy to look beyond 45 miles inward from either coast to notice that anybody else actually plays football professionally.

I guarantee you that if the 49er's or Pats were 7-0 right now, these shitstains would be talking about "dynasty" and shit like that. The Chiefs have been so bad that the only reason that they could be 7-0 is that the entire NFL decided to take a nose dive right into a shitter in the 2013 season.

Direckshun · 10-23-2013, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

It means that Tom Brady isn't 7-0 and Manning just lost and they don't know the name of a single player on the Chiefs roster other than the coach, which means that the NFL now sucks.

Last year, the talent was crazy sick. There was a true East and West coast team battling it out in the Super Bowl and the Harbaugh brothers were the toast of the media.

Now, the ****ing slap dick Chiefs are kicking ass and the national media has been too ****ing lazy to look beyond 45 miles inward from either coast to notice that anybody else actually plays football professionally.

I guarantee you that if the 49er's or Pats were 7-0 right now, these shitstains would be talking about "dynasty" and shit like that. The Chiefs have been so bad that the only reason that they could be 7-0 is that the entire NFL decided to take a nose dive right into a shitter in the 2013 season.

Outstanding post. You are turning into an invaluable asset on this forum.

Saccopoo · 10-23-2013, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Outstanding post. You are turning into an invaluable asset on this forum.

What do you mean "turning into...?"

I've been forum MVP for years.

**notorious** · 10-23-2013, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

It means that Tom Brady isn't 7-0 and Manning just lost and they don't know the name of a single player on the Chiefs roster other than the coach, which means that the NFL now sucks.

Last year, the talent was crazy sick. There was a true East and West coast team battling it out in the Super Bowl and the Harbaugh brothers were the toast of the media.

Now, the ****ing slap dick Chiefs are kicking ass and the national media has been too ****ing lazy to look beyond 45 miles inward from either coast to notice that anybody else actually plays football professionally.

I guarantee you that if the 49er's or Pats were 7-0 right now, these shitstains would be talking about "dynasty" and shit like that. The Chiefs have been so bad that the only reason that they could be 7-0 is that the entire NFL decided to take a nose dive right into a shitter in the 2013 season.

You beat me to it.

Chiefs=Champions · 10-24-2013, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

It means that Tom Brady isn't 7-0 and Manning just lost and they don't know the name of a single player on the Chiefs roster other than the coach, which means that the NFL now sucks.

Last year, the talent was crazy sick. There was a true East and West coast team battling it out in the Super Bowl and the Harbaugh brothers were the toast of the media.

Now, the ****ing slap dick Chiefs are kicking ass and the national media has been too ****ing lazy to look beyond 45 miles inward from either coast to notice that anybody else actually plays football professionally.

I guarantee you that if the 49er's or Pats were 7-0 right now, these shitstains would be talking about "dynasty" and shit like that. The Chiefs have been so bad that the only reason that they could be 7-0 is that the entire NFL decided to take a nose dive right into a shitter in the 2013 season.

THIS

a pp roach · 10-24-2013, 09:09 AM

good points made, especially about the favoritism of the media, but when you say dynasty about teams like the patriots and 49ers (who have been recently successful) it means something because of their success, not their convenient location on the map. especially for new england who has dominated the afc east for many years now. i guess what i mean is it's not that they're lazy, just they don't respect the chiefs yet. i do admit it's harder to be a midwest team without a star qb and get praise for a good season.

the chiefs went from 2-14 to 7-0, which is impressive and frustrating to be overlooked, but we have to embrace it, really. they're not gonna say we're elite yet because it's still only halfway through the first year after a dog eggnog fart of a season.

**loochy** · 10-24-2013, 09:11 AM

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it's still only halfway through the first year after a dog eggnog fart of a season.

what doe that even mean? LOL

10-23-2013, 10:28 PM	Topic Starter
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $2210208	Is the overall talent level of the NFL in a "down" year? And WTF does that mean? Somebody showed me the podcast from Monday's PTI show. After Wilbon and Bob Ryan discussed the Donks loss, they moved to talking about the Chiefs as the last undefeated team in the 2nd segment. The question was "Are the Chiefs possibly the best team in the NFL?" Bob Ryan did the usual, "No, who have they played, they seem to only squeak by bad teams instead of asserting dominance yadda yadda." He continued on, though, and said, "What this shows with the Chiefs being the NFL's last remaining unbeaten is that the overall talent level is down this year. There is a lack of truly dominant teams." They continued the rest of the discussion without qualifying what that meant. Wilbon and Ryan both gave credit to Andy Reid and the KC D and oddly enough Alex Smith for telling the Niners to go **** themselves and continuing to win on a new team. So it wasn't all negative shit about the Chiefs. My question is do you have any idea what Ryan possibly meant by this, and do you agree with it if you do?
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10-23-2013, 10:30 PM	#2
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4263447	I won't say that there's a lack of talent (WTF does that mean?), or that there's a lack of elite teams. But the parity this year seems totally non existent. You have three classes of teams right now about as clear as you've ever seen it. 10 teams are really good. 10 teams are absolute shit town. The gap between those two groups is hellaciously large. It's pretty astonishing.
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Ace Gunner First Overall Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: kcmo Casino cash: $10007271	I miss hits. I don't agree there aren't dominant teams this season. I think there are fewer this season. As clunky as the offense is, the Chiefs are dominating opponents imo. same with Broncos & Saints, Seattle.. __________________ The Greatest
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10-23-2013, 10:37 PM	#9
Saccopoo Kindness in words... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Zion Casino cash: $10025483	It means that Tom Brady isn't 7-0 and Manning just lost and they don't know the name of a single player on the Chiefs roster other than the coach, which means that the NFL now sucks. Last year, the talent was crazy sick. There was a true East and West coast team battling it out in the Super Bowl and the Harbaugh brothers were the toast of the media. Now, the **ing slap dick Chiefs are kicking ass and the national media has been too **ing lazy to look beyond 45 miles inward from either coast to notice that anybody else actually plays football professionally. I guarantee you that if the 49er's or Pats were 7-0 right now, these shitstains would be talking about "dynasty" and shit like that. The Chiefs have been so bad that the only reason that they could be 7-0 is that the entire NFL decided to take a nose dive right into a shitter in the 2013 season.
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10-24-2013, 09:09 AM	#14
a pp roach Veteran Join Date: Dec 2012 Casino cash: $10010545	good points made, especially about the favoritism of the media, but when you say dynasty about teams like the patriots and 49ers (who have been recently successful) it means something because of their success, not their convenient location on the map. especially for new england who has dominated the afc east for many years now. i guess what i mean is it's not that they're lazy, just they don't respect the chiefs yet. i do admit it's harder to be a midwest team without a star qb and get praise for a good season. the chiefs went from 2-14 to 7-0, which is impressive and frustrating to be overlooked, but we have to embrace it, really. they're not gonna say we're elite yet because it's still only halfway through the first year after a dog eggnog fart of a season.
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