Success in 2008?

[jettio]

Herm Edwards better work his team harder in training camp and on the practice field.

Unlike to propaganda coming from Arrowhead, this year Chiefs are underachieving their talent level.

Herm's philosophy of keeping players fresh by practicing less does not work.

The reason this team does not play better is that they do not practice enough. Esp. the offensive line and the offense.

If Herm runs a harder training camp like Vermeil or Schottenheimer, he can be a winner in 2008. If he does things the same way, 2008 is his last year here.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

don't forget dumbshit gameday coaching

C'mon, TW.

I'm not saying he's the second coming of Vince Lombardi.

I'm just saying that in the pecking order of reasons why this team is 4-8, practice schedule isn't even on the list.

And it's a LONG ****ing list.

[FAX]

Practice? We're talking about practice, man. I mean, how silly is that? We're talking about practice. Practice? I know they're supposed to be there. I know they're supposed to lead by example ... I know it's important ... I honestly do. But we're talking about practice, man. What are we talking about? Practice?

FAX

[jettio]

Originally Posted by FAX

Practice? We're talking about practice, man. I mean, how silly is that? We're talking about practice. Practice? I know they're supposed to be there. I know they're supposed to lead by example ... I know it's important ... I honestly do. But we're talking about practice, man. What are we talking about? Practice?

FAX

I just go by what I read in the papers.

I am rooting for Herm to make everyone eat crow in 2008.

He could go 12-4 next year and make it to the AFC championship and 90% of the people down on him now will still be pissing and moaning.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by jettio

I just go by what I read in the papers.

I am rooting for Herm to make everyone eat crow in 2008.

He could go 12-4 next year and make it to the AFC championship and 90% of the people down on him now will still be pissing and moaning.

It was an Iverson thing. But, I hope you're right, Mr. jettio. Nothing would please me more than to see the Chiefs turn things around next year. Unfortunately, the outlook is bleaker than a weekend furlough on spider island.

Too many holes to fill. No real offensive strategy (other than not turn the ball over and try to improve field position). Too much money tied up in too few players.

I hate to say it, but I think we're at least 3 to 4 years away from seeing things come together. In the meantime, I'm with you. Let's practice their asses off. Especially after losses.

FAX

[kstater]

You're right Jettio. The Chiefs should have continued two-a-days after Training Camp and into the season. If only Herm had had more two-a-days the Chiefs would be undefeated.

[CoMoChief]

You know, on offense Dick Vermeil would practice and practice all day long on the offense to a point where people got tired of it, having that said they knew how to execute the offense down to a point.

Herm needs to do the same to this offense. That and change his ****in offensive schemes!!!!!!!

[Hydrae]

Interesting thought. I have been wondering at the number of hamstring issues we have seen this year and keep thinking that it sounds like a conditioning thing to me.

Also, note how the defense can not get our opponents off the field in the 4th quarter. This also sounds like a conditioning issue especially when you see that we are continually winning the TOP battle.

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by Hydrae

Interesting thought. I have been wondering at the number of hamstring issues we have seen this year and keep thinking that it sounds like a conditioning thing to me.

Also, note how the defense can not get our opponents off the field in the 4th quarter. This also sounds like a conditioning issue especially when you see that we are continually winning the TOP battle.

valid assumption..

[jettio]

Originally Posted by kstater

You're right Jettio. The Chiefs should have continued two-a-days after Training Camp and into the season. If only Herm had had more two-a-days the Chiefs would be undefeated.

Did you ever play any organized sports?

There was a lot of fanfare about DV's practices vs. Vermeil's.

It seems to me that the Chiefs simplifying the offense and not executing plays are directly related to that.

Anyone that has played sports knows that the way a team practices matters.

[kstater]

Originally Posted by jettio

Did you ever play any organized sports?

There was a lot of fanfare about DV's practices vs. Vermeil's.

It seems to me that the Chiefs simplifying the offense and not executing plays are directly related to that.

Anyone that has played sports knows that the way a team practices matters.

I'm just saying that of all the reasons the Chief's are not successful this year, non marathon practices are way down on the list.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by jettio

Anyone that has played sports knows that the way a team practices matters.

Perfect practice leads to perfect execution

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by Hydrae

Interesting thought. I have been wondering at the number of hamstring issues we have seen this year and keep thinking that it sounds like a conditioning thing to me.

Also, note how the defense can not get our opponents off the field in the 4th quarter. This also sounds like a conditioning issue especially when you see that we are continually winning the TOP battle.

Disagree. I don't think it is a conditioning thing? It more or less has to do with the fact on how putrid our offense is. When you lead the league in 3 and outs, and don't sustain very many long drives on offense, your defense is going to get tired.

[xbarretx]

Originally Posted by Bowser

People bitch about Herm; people bitch about Carl; people bitch about Solari, the scheme, whatever....

It comes down to this - If the Chiefs are going to have ANY success next year, they have GOT TO improve the offensive line. It's not about working them harder, or less harder - it's about the talent on the offensive line. Because of them, we are going to score the least amount of points in the history of this team, because the line cannot pass protect or run block.

Don't put this year on Herm (even though he has his share of mistakes this year). Put this on Carl for not bringing in the players at a vital position to help this team win.

correct but he does have a roundabout point. what ever mentality that this team needs to succede.....they dont have it. They need it. upgrade tallent and make players earn there cash. the players as well as coaches need to take ownership of playing half@$$

[FAX]

Originally Posted by Hydrae

Interesting thought. I have been wondering at the number of hamstring issues we have seen this year and keep thinking that it sounds like a conditioning thing to me.

Also, note how the defense can not get our opponents off the field in the 4th quarter. This also sounds like a conditioning issue especially when you see that we are continually winning the TOP battle.

You're right about both those issues, in my opinion, Mr. Hydrae. The hamstrings are conditioning for sure. As for the D's propensity to fade in the 4th quarter, you may be seeing that on both sides of the ball. I mean, not only does the defense appear to be softening, but the offense cannot seem to move the ball in the 4th.

I have yet to hear a media person ask this question of Herm, however. Who picks these KC media people, anyway?

FAX

[OnTheWarpath15]

Again, I don't remember this being an issue LAST YEAR, when Herm had the exact same practice schedule......