The Todd Haley -- Chiefs HC Thread

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

If it wasn't for Todd Haley we would never have seen Tyler Palko **** Todd Haley. Good coach or not the fact we had to see Tyler Palko for as long as we did Todd Haley just was fail. It's just dumb to think he was any good for Chiefs after that.

I'm 100% convinced that Stanzi absolutely sucks. I think we got Palko because Palko was better. We'll get Quinn, who also completely sucks, when Cassel gets the hook because Quinn's complete suckage is still better than Palko's. Too many goddamn Ioweegans on this board propping that piece of crap up into something he's not, never has been or never will be.

And none of this is Haley's fault.

[Graystoke]

Originally Posted by frazod

I'm 100% convinced that Stanzi absolutely sucks. I think we got Palko because Palko was better. We'll get Quinn, who also completely sucks, when Cassel gets the hook because Quinn's complete suckage is still better than Palko's. Too many goddamn Ioweegans on this board propping that piece of crap up into something he's not, never has been or never will be.

And none of this is Haley's fault.

Ioweegan here, and I can tell you straight up. Stanzi is not NFL caliber.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by frazod

I'm 100% convinced that Stanzi absolutely sucks. I think we got Palko because Palko was better. We'll get Quinn, who also completely sucks, when Cassel gets the hook because Quinn's complete suckage is still better than Palko's. Too many goddamn Ioweegans on this board propping that piece of crap up into something he's not, never has been or never will be.

And none of this is Haley's fault.

We couldn't come up with someone off the streets better than Palko? He was a Haley tagalong from Arizona as for all I know. I don't know but what I do know is Pioli & Haley should have never had Palko start a NFL game with the Chiefs. Palko was on this team pryer to last year and the hold out so they had plenty of opportunity to find a decent to standard back up QB let a lone one that could push Cassell for the starting job. Fail = Pioli on that and also fail = Haley as he was the HC who couldn't get this team anywhere close to improvement with what he had to work with. The Miami game was the last straw for me that was on Haley and unprepared team no matter who the quarterback was we got our ass whooped yet again.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

If it wasn't for Todd Haley we would never have seen Tyler Palko **** Todd Haley. Good coach or not the fact we had to see Tyler Palko for as long as we did Todd Haley just was fail. It's just dumb to think he was any good for Chiefs after that.

Enough of this.

Now, I'll grant you that Haley have started Orton in Chicago.

I think you're forgetting Kyle dislocated his finger vs the Bears.

[mcaj22]

if Todd wins a Super Bowl in Pittsburgh he could very well be back on someones head coaching radar

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

if Todd wins a Super Bowl in Pittsburgh he could very well be back on someones head coaching radar

I expect he will be considered a candidate by NFL teams next season regardless.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Lou_Zare

I expect he will be considered a candidate by NFL teams next season regardless.

No.

[RealSNR]

He wasn't a good coach for the Chiefs because he wasn't a good coach. He was dumb.

He was a different kind of dumb from Herm, though. Herm was dumb on gameday because he was a pussy soft bitch who didn't understand that putting the game in the hands of his defense meant you should probably build up a defense capable of getting those key stops when you need them. Haley was dumb on gameday because he was just stupid. It's like he possessed no cognition or rationality.

I will say, however, that if things were different and Haley could have grown from a rookie head coach at all in 2.5 years, he would represent my ideal coach. Young, hardass, no nonsense, respected by the players, and knowledgeable of Xs and Os. For some reason, however, that knowledge could never translate to the field on game day.

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by SNR

He wasn't a good coach for the Chiefs because he wasn't a good coach. He was dumb.

He was a different kind of dumb from Herm, though. Herm was dumb on gameday because he was a pussy soft bitch who didn't understand that putting the game in the hands of his defense meant you should probably build up a defense capable of getting those key stops when you need them. Haley was dumb on gameday because he was just stupid. It's like he possessed no cognition or rationality.

I will say, however, that if things were different and Haley could have grown from a rookie head coach at all in 2.5 years, he would represent my ideal coach. Young, hardass, no nonsense, respected by the players, and knowledgeable of Xs and Os. For some reason, however, that knowledge could never translate to the field on game day.

and so, you see some type of contrast now?

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Lou_Zare

and so, you see some type of contrast now?

Romeo is a different kind of dumb from Todd Haley. Romeo is more Herm dumb. Remember Club Herm? You're seeing Club Romeo right now. They're almost identical. Remember how Herm's defensive focus to the HC position made our defense a "better tackling unit?" Same here. It's almost like the defense doesn't give a shit anymore.

Romeo is also extremely conservative on the sideline. Not like Herm, but almost as bad.

[Molitoth]

This is still my fav

[frankotank]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

This is still my fav

I find it very disturbing.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by frankotank

I find it very disturbing.

I found his whole time here very disturbing...

[durtyrute]

I was, is, and will continue to be a Haley supporter. For once we had a young up and coming coach who could call our own instead of getting washed up has beens. I really wished he would have given the offense over to someone else, eased up just a little, and realized you don't have to go for it or be super tricky all of the time.

I don't blame him for the great Palkizy fiasco. He was our backup QB and it was only a couple of games. You don't bench a QB for a rookie after four games. The whole "walking on the field" thing was exactly what I want from a coach. Mike Tomlin does that shit all of the time but no one bitches about him doing it.

Haley showed that he cared about the team. He had fire and guts, something we have been missing in KC for a while. With a better QB and some growing on his own he would have been fine.

I'm pissed we kept Pissioli and fired Haley. Haley hated Cassel and Pissoli loves him that's all that needs to be said.

(Wow, I could have saved my fingers and just typed that last line first.)

[whoman69]

I think Haley got too much blame. Certainly his people skills were not always the best, but sometimes its the jerk that can get the most out of people. Pioli chose the coaches, the defensive scheme, and gave him no depth especially at QB. Having Tyler Palko as a backup is inexcusable. I also believe he was under orders not to play Stanzi. We even saw an argument on the field with Zorn about putting Stanzi in. I don't think his decision to forego team prep in favor of conditioning last year was the right decision. These guys are professionals and should be expected to come in ready to go.