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Old 03-15-2013, 07:48 AM  
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Mike and Mike Talking about Geno going #1 overall
It was just a matter of time. Obviously the Chiefs don't need him but they are helping create a market for a trade.

Apparently Jaws loves the kid.
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Old 03-15-2013, 10:47 AM   #136
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That's ****ing bullshit. There wouldn't be a QB controversy if Andy Reid comes out day 1 and says that Alex Smith is his QB in 2013.

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Of course there would be a huge controversy. You don't want Geno to be drafted 1.1 and then sit on the bench the next 4 years while Smith continues his mediocre career.
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Old 03-15-2013, 10:48 AM   #137
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They're just ****ing draft picks.

And it's not horrible value....considering that we had one of the top 3 worst QB situations last year. Drafting Geno Smith would realistically fix that shit in one ****ing offseason. You know what you can do when you have your QB situation fixed completely? You can build a Super Bowl winning roster....complete with quality depth.
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Of course there would be a huge controversy. You don't want Geno to be drafted 1.1 and then sit on the bench the next 4 years while Smith continues his mediocre career.
Where are you getting 4 years?

1. He's only under contract for 2.
2. If he's average and not getting KC over the hump....he'll be gone.
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Old 03-15-2013, 10:49 AM   #139
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Chase Daniel is their "draft pick" on the bench.
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Old 03-15-2013, 10:49 AM   #140
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You do if you still plan on winning after one of your QBs go down with an injury.
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Chase Daniel is their "draft pick" on the bench.
Chase Daniel is a career backup QB.
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Old 03-15-2013, 10:50 AM   #142
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If we don't take Geno at 1, we won't have a chance to draft a better qb for at least 45 years.
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yea, but it's not the money.

we just paid a high,high 2nd round pick plus another draft pick in trade for Smith. Alex Smith just went through getting replaced by a draftee.

I just don't see it.

If they were going to draft Geno then they should of picked up a guy like David Gerrard or Hasselbeck. They could grab Kolb. You don't trade 2 draft picks for a guy and then draft another QB with the 1st pick.
As others have noted:

The Skins spent 3 1st round picks, a 2nd round pick, and a 3rd round pick on 2 QBs last year.


Geno + Alex would be 1 1st round pick, 1 2nd round pick, and a potential third undisclosed pick.
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Old 03-15-2013, 10:51 AM   #144
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keep the dream alive!!!!!!
Screw it then. Why have a starting QB in the first place if you don't plan on winning from the get go?
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correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Daniel contract voidable after the 1st year?

With a vet QB on roster named as starter now, it sounds like they could be setting the stage for a QB in the draft. Let the rookie duke it out in year #1 for the backup job, and allow him to eventually compete for the starting gig as he's ready for it.
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Chase Daniel is a career backup QB.
And he went undrafted.

Still doesn't change the fact that I think he's their contingency plan when ASmith goes down.

I can't believe people are still trying to keep hope alive on this one. It's like you're asking the team to kick you in the nuts.
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The Packers had a future Hall of Fame QB running the show and Aaron Rodgers sat through an epic fall on draft day so it was pretty easy to sell the Green Bay fanbase (and probably Rodgers himself) on the idea that Rodgers should sit as an understudy for a few years. From a PR and QB controversy perspective, this would be a completely different situation, fwiw.
Not the same exact scenario but see the Titans in 2011 drafting a QB at #8 overall, signing a vet. QB and starting the vet for a year.
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correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Daniel contract voidable after the 1st year?

With a vet QB on roster named as starter now, it sounds like they could be setting the stage for a QB in the draft. Let the rookie duke it out in year #1 for the backup job, and allow him to eventually compete for the starting gig as he's ready for it.
Every NFL contract is 'voidable'; they're not guaranteed.

What you're reading when you see 'voidable' is that Chase Daniel can opt out of it if he throws 12 TDs and 2K yards.

Sure, they can cut Daniel after 2013 and accelerate the remaining $2 million onto the cap, plus his $1 million in guaranteed salary...but it would be stupid. His cap figure for 2014 is going to be right at $3.85 million. If you cut him, his dead money is $3 million. You can't get a veteran backup, even a shitty one, for the $850k cap savings you'd take by releasing him.

Daniel will probably be gone in 2015 when his base salary is $3.75 million and none of it's guaranteed, but he's here for the next 2 years without question.
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Every NFL contract is 'voidable'; they're not guaranteed.

What you're reading when you see 'voidable' is that Chase Daniel can opt out of it if he throws 12 TDs and 2K yards.

Sure, they can cut Daniel after 2013 and accelerate the remaining $2 million onto the cap, plus his $1 million in guaranteed salary...but it would be stupid. His cap figure for 2014 is going to be right at $3.85 million in 2014. If you cut him, his dead money is $3 million. You can't get a veteran backup, even a shitty one, for the $850k cap savings you'd take by releasing him.

Daniel will probably be gone in 2015 when his base salary is $3.75 million and none of it's guaranteed, but he's here for the next 2 years without question.
Alex Smith on the other hand is not guaranteed to be here after this year.
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