Chiefs Why all the man love for Bray? - Page 9

**penguinz** · 12-23-2013, 01:25 PM

I don't understand all the man love for this guy.

duncan_idaho · 12-24-2013, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Yet he couldn't do shit with Bray at QB and Patterson/Hunter at WR.

2012 Tennessee defensive totals:

Total defense: 110th
Passing defense: 114th
Rushing defense: 87th
Scoring defense: 107th

Offensive numbers:

Scoring offense: 22nd
Rushing offense: 62nd
Passing offense: 15th
Total offense: 18th

Tennessee had problems in 2012, but those were not with offensive design. Jim Chaney is a very good, highly respected offensive coach.

Tyler Bray played in a very QB friendly system with a ton of talent around him. That's why Tennessee piled up numbers.

Now, you might say, if Tennessee's offense was so good, that means Bray was equally as good, right?

There's no doubt Bray had his moments. But when Tennessee's offense stalled, it was against defenses that had the athletes to get away with doing more complex things scheme-wise. This is where Bray's trouble with decision making, consistent accuracy and reading defenses held things back.

tonyetony · 12-24-2013, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ActiveShooter

While averaging 40 points a game. Too bad he didn't play defense too.

What are you talking about. They never scored more than 33 in a game all season. They scored 0 against Alabama.

tonyetony · 12-24-2013, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyetony

What are you talking about. They never scored more than 33 in a game all season. They scored 0 against Alabama.

BTW I'm referring to 2013 Arkansas.

**Mav** · 12-24-2013, 12:28 PM

And Jd, when you state offered him a contract.

They offered him a 2 million a dollar a year deal that was laden with incentives, and were also bringing back Phillip Rivers.

Not sure that this assertion exactly makes me "wrong".

But more an modest back handed slap by Aj Smith to say, HEY WE TRIED.

Aj Smith for two years tried to get Phillip Rivers in as the starter, but was rebutted by Marty.

Now, here is how you have a football discussion. Here is a link. Feel free to read it, and then you can come back and we can have a football discussion if you like.

http://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2010...rgers-let-drew

ActiveShooter · 12-24-2013, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Yet he couldn't do shit with Bray at QB and Patterson/Hunter at WR.

Hunter sucks btw, and Patterson doesn't run routes. That's why he's he's been just a special teams and backfield flash. Hunter has no heart and is scared of the middle of the field. Sad really because until his sophomore year he looked really promising.

duncan_idaho · 12-24-2013, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyetony

Yep you are right. You could have at least mentioned the fact that he was the one calling the plays when they whooped up on Samford, 1/3 of their seasons win total. LOL

Do you follow SEC/college football?

If you did, you should be aware of a few things that had far more to do with Arkansas's terrible season than Jim Chaney.

1) They were terrible last year
2) They brought in a placeholder coach last year, John L Smith, (which failed, but is beside the point) and had a lost year in recruiting outside of the RB position.
3) Bobby Petrino never was a top-notch recruiter. His college teams typically have cratered following his exodus from them. The Arkansas roster was low on high level talent, especially on the defensive side of the football. And most of its offensive talent left after 2012.

ActiveShooter · 12-24-2013, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Tyler Bray is Tom Brady now.

One time is an anomaly.....not the norm.

No one said that dumbass.

**Mav** · 12-24-2013, 12:30 PM

I think it would be far more beneficial for people if they want to bring up long shot qbs as qbs who found success, as to bring up:

Matt Hasselbeck,
Jeff Garcia,
Kurt Warner,
Tony Romo,
Mark Brunell,
Jake Delhomme.

I think personally those support more of the long shot successes. Tom Brady, that pedestal is just too high.

ActiveShooter · 12-24-2013, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo

I believe this regime has already invested considerably more in Daniel than they ever will in a flier that went undrafted.

Doh, all kinds of ignorance on display here.

**The Franchise** · 12-24-2013, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ActiveShooter

No one said that dumbass.

Really ****tard? Tom Brady is the go to answer when it comes to Quarterbacks making it.

Don't want to draft a QB in the 1st round? Tom Brady was a 6th round pick!

Hanging your hopes on that UDFA QB? Tom Brady was passed over by 31 other teams!

ChiefsLV · 12-24-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Then don't bring up Tom Brady as a reason that Tyler Bray will succeed.

Tom Brady is an anomaly.

Actually I'll bring up whatever I want to bring up.

ActiveShooter · 12-24-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyetony

BTW I'm referring to 2013 Arkansas.

I'm talking Tennessee. Why is Arkansas even discussed here?

jd1020 · 12-24-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

And Jd, when you state offered him a contract.

They offered him a 2 million a dollar a year deal that was laden with incentives, and were also bringing back Phillip Rivers.

Not sure that this assertion exactly makes me "wrong".

But more an modest back handed slap by Aj Smith to say, HEY WE TRIED.

Aj Smith for two years tried to get Phillip Rivers in as the starter, but was rebutted by Marty.

Now, here is how you have a football discussion. Here is a link. Feel free to read it, and then you can come back and we can have a football discussion if you like.

http://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2010...rgers-let-drew

They offered him just about as much as the other teams.

They simply didn't guarantee him a starting job like the Saints.

3 teams offered a contract to a multiple pro-bowl level QB and none offered starting money.

Ya, his shoulder wasn't an issue...

**Mav** · 12-24-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Really ****tard? Tom Brady is the go to answer when it comes to Quarterbacks making it.

Don't want to draft a QB in the 1st round? Tom Brady was a 6th round pick!

Hanging your hopes on that UDFA QB? Tom Brady was passed over by 31 other teams!

I personally would rather go recent history.

Like,

Mike Glennon,
Russell Wilson,
Colin Kaepernick (bleh)
Nick Foles.

**Mav** · 12-24-2013, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

They offered him just about as much as the other teams.

They simply didn't guarantee him a starting job like the Saints.

Well, that was the point though. Drew Brees may have been offered a contract, but it was to come in as a back up. Which at the end of the day, was a slap in the face.

I do understand from their point of view that he was hurt, and doctors didn't know how he would recover, but, the contract offer itself in my opinion, wasn't really one to be taken seriously.

Obviously, it worked out the best possible way for Brees.

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Mav XBOX GT MAVS ACE Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Wisconsin Casino cash: $10019303	And Jd, when you state offered him a contract. They offered him a 2 million a dollar a year deal that was laden with incentives, and were also bringing back Phillip Rivers. Not sure that this assertion exactly makes me "wrong". But more an modest back handed slap by Aj Smith to say, HEY WE TRIED. Aj Smith for two years tried to get Phillip Rivers in as the starter, but was rebutted by Marty. Now, here is how you have a football discussion. Here is a link. Feel free to read it, and then you can come back and we can have a football discussion if you like. http://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2010...rgers-let-drew __________________ Resident Browns fan I’m not here to argue about Alex Smith. Fastest Ignore user on CP
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12-24-2013, 12:30 PM	#128
Mav XBOX GT MAVS ACE Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Wisconsin Casino cash: $10019303	I think it would be far more beneficial for people if they want to bring up long shot qbs as qbs who found success, as to bring up: Matt Hasselbeck, Jeff Garcia, Kurt Warner, Tony Romo, Mark Brunell, Jake Delhomme. I think personally those support more of the long shot successes. Tom Brady, that pedestal is just too high. __________________ Resident Browns fan I’m not here to argue about Alex Smith. Fastest Ignore user on CP
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