Giving Alex the 'Joe Flacco Treatment'

[pugsnotdrugs19]

The contract talks between the Chiefs and Alex Smith is our big story right now. Especially with his old squad signing Kaepernick today.. this situation gets more and more interesting. A couple of observations of our team...

Defensively, we are as stacked as we are going to be for a long time this season. Chances are we won't play another season with all the talent we currently have on that side again (Hali older, Houston/Berry/Poe with extensions in the nearer future)

Offensively, if all the OTA talk is real and Alex is really playing as well as they say (and the WR's such as Bowe), we are a solid offensive line from perhaps a top 10 offense.

It's fair to say the 'window' is as wide as it will ever be. With possible big contributions from Kelce, Commings, Knile, and other 1st/2nd year players, we may have a Super Bowl bound squad. Which is what leads me to this though: Let the season play out before signing Alex. If he plays well, a playoff win or two? Sign him for 100 million. If he wins a Super Bowl? Give him whatever he wants and a key to the city. If he and the team bombs? Let him walk and use Murray or Bray, use the money to keep our defensive stars.

This is the right plan, imo. Discuss.

[OldSchool]

Stacked talent wise but still mediocre on defense. It's frustrating.

Offensively, we still lack anything beyond Bowe and Bowe is more of a #2 possession receiver right now, until proven otherwise.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Stacked talent wise but still mediocre on defense. It's frustrating.

Offensively, we still lack anything beyond Bowe and Bowe is more of a #2 possession receiver right now, until proven otherwise.

If young guys like Ford, Gaines, Commings, Kelce, Davis, etc. give us anything off the bench to keep our stars fresh and make plays, it's more than fair to say we'd be one of the deepest teams in the league. And it is those teams that play at the end of January/February.

[Hammock Parties]

This team is stacked defensively?

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by Count Zarth

This team is stacked defensively?

Yep. Lol if they aren't who is? Talent wise you can't name 5 teams ahead of them.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Yep. Lol if they aren't who is? Talent wise you can't name 5 teams ahead of them.

Seattle
San Francisco
St Louis
Carolina
Arizona
The Jets

That's 6 off the top of my head.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by milkman

Seattle
San Francisco
St Louis
Carolina
Arizona
The Jets

That's 6 off the top of my head.

Arizona without anyone at LB? LOL

STL is a projection. They don't have many guys who have shown sh*t.

Jets I'll take but an argument can be made.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Arizona isn't without anyone at LB? LOL

STL is a projection. They don't have many guys who have shown sh*t.

Jets I'll take but an argument can be made.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by milkman

Seattle
San Francisco
St Louis
Carolina
Arizona
The Jets

That's 6 off the top of my head.

The Jets?

Honestly I think if you compare them position by position I doubt you'd come to the same conclusion.

They do have a great defensive coach, which KC does not have. Talent? I'd take KC in a heart-beat over the jets as they are right now purely on talent.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by milkman

Seattle
San Francisco
St Louis
Carolina
Arizona
The Jets

That's 6 off the top of my head.

Houston.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Yep. Lol if they aren't who is? Talent wise you can't name 5 teams ahead of them.

What does that even mean?

The Chiefs aren't a top 5 defense. Talent is useless if it's not utilized properly or if there are massive gaping holes.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Yep. Lol if they aren't who is? Talent wise you can't name 5 teams ahead of them.

Seattle - Stacked.

SF - Stacked and more stacked in the secondary now.

Cardinals - even without Washington, they are still a dominant defense because of two key players, Campbell and Peterson. Dockett isn't like what he was a few years ago, but he's still plenty good.

Rams- Scariest pass rushing front 4 in the league with the addition of Donald.

Saints- Not a lot of names but they're absolutely a better unit with Rob Ryan commanding them and the young combo of Cameron Jordan and Kenny Vaccaro anchoring the team.

Cincy- Stacked, especially their front.

Broncos- Miller dropped back down to his dominant weight, Ware is there now, Ward, Wolfe is back, Knighton still wrecking, And Talib has joined them. They're stacked.

Bills - Williams, Dareus, Hughes, Alonso, Gilmore, etc.

Browns - Should be a dominant unit, they're always good and have a better secondary than us.

Texans- Still have the goods to be absolutely dominant. Watt should have it easier this year with Clowney now in the mix. Scary potential there alone on top of their other talent.

If I had to guess, I would say we end up around 12-16 in total defense this coming season.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Seattle - Stacked.

SF - Stacked and more stacked in the secondary now.

Cardinals - even without Washington, they are still a dominant defense because of two key players, Campbell and Peterson. Dockett isn't like what he was a few years ago, but he's still plenty good.

Rams- Scariest pass rushing front 4 in the league with the addition of Donald.

Saints- Not a lot of names but they're absolutely a better unit with Rob Ryan commanding them and the young combo of Cameron Jordan and Kenny Vaccaro anchoring the team.

Cincy- Stacked, especially their front.

Broncos- Miller dropped back down to his dominant weight, Ware is there now, Ward, Wolfe is back, Knighton still wrecking, And Talib has joined them. They're stacked.

Bills - Williams, Dareus, Hughes, Alonso, Gilmore, etc.

Browns - Should be a dominant unit, they're always good and have a better secondary than us.

Texans- Still have the goods to be absolutely dominant. Watt should have it easier this year with Clowney now in the mix. Scary potential there alone on top of their other talent.

If I had to guess, I would say we end up around 12-16 in total defense this coming season.

Your take on the Cardinals would suggest they have 2-3 good players. We have 5 minimum.

Rams is a projection, especially with Donald.

Most all of those are based on what you think will happen, like me. So who wins? Play the games and we'll see.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Most all of those are based on what you think will happen, like me. So who wins? Play the games and we'll see.

The Lambs completely fisting the Colts last year is not a projection. It happened. They trounced them. It was over by half time.

The same Colts team that beat us twice.

And that's the worst team in that NFCW division...

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Your take on the Cardinals would suggest they have 2-3 good players. We have 5 minimum.

Rams is a projection, especially with Donald.

Most all of those are based on what you think will happen, like me. So who wins? Play the games and we'll see.

Have you even watched the Cardinals' defense play? If you did, you wouldn't even question that they are a better defense than we are.

Rams aren't a projection, they are scary. The have the league's sack leader from 2013. They already have a young DT who flashes dominance in Michael Brockers; they just added the best interior pass rusher in the draft in Aaron Donald who also happens to be the most technically advanced DL player from the 2014 draft class, which means he will make an impact sooner rather than later. They have Chris Long manning the LDE position and is a good pass rusher himself.

Their front 4 alone will give every team trouble in pass protection.