Chiefs Media starting to take "A Hard Look" at Andy Reid - Page 8

Chief Roundup · 12-09-2014, 07:59 PM

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The latest loss for the Kansas City Chiefs may be the hardest to reconcile. When a team struggles like they did in Arizona the entire organization needs to be ready to find the issues and correct them. Nothing is more corrosive to a team’s confidence than not knowing why its losing. It is the responsibility of both the players and staff.
Today, Andy Reid is in looking glass. I’ll discuss the players later this week in a special 2-part Chiefs’ Truths.

Evaluate Team including Andy Reid
John Dorsey was brought to Kansas City after Andy Reid was hired as Head Coach, supposedly on the recommendation of Reid. Now, he will be in the possibly difficult position of evaluating Reid’s performance leading the team.

There are 2 very disturbing trends.

The 2013 Kansas City Chiefs started 9-0 there first season on Reid’s leadership. Then came the bye week. After the bye, the Chiefs lost 6 of their next 8 games, bouncing from the playoffs in the first round (again). They were swept by Denver and San Diego and lost twice in three weeks to Indianapolis. For a squad that was young and somewhat cobbled together after the final roster cuts, it was a solid first season.

It’s a very big red flag to see the last 3 contests all come out as losses. It hints at 2014 repeating the pattern of 2014’s last 8 games where the Chiefs had two runs of back-to-back-to-back losses. The team was playing for a share of the AFC West lead 3 weeks ago and now will have to claw their way to be in position for the last Wildcard slot. To the eyes outside of the building at Arrowhead Drive, this is looking like a systemic issue with Reid and his staff fading as the season closes. Positions and even careers cannot withstand that kind of trend for long.

Stop saying “Its Fixable” and Fix It
The second trend seen in Kansas City has been a lack of answers. Reid has been unable to correct any of the issues with his offense. Alex Smith has been sacked and average of 3 times per game in 2014. Even worse, he’s had to deal with 11 sacks in the last 2 contests alone. Yet, there have been no personnel changes and no apparent scheme changes along the offensive line. One notable change was made to the wide receivers by getting some fresh blood, some old and some new, into the lineup. That was generally successful. (more on the players later this week in part 2)

Sutton did get a much better performance from his defensive line in Arizona. While Joe Mays bolstered the run defense while he was on the field, Josh Mauga and James-Michael Johnson continue to have assignment breakdowns that allow huge chunks of yardage. Overall his defense still was gashed by the run and unable to get off the field when it counted most. The secondary still has Ron Parker playing out of position at cornerback. Chris Owens has not been as advertised in the slot and Sutton, Emmitt Thomas and Al Harris have not been able to rebuild Marcus Copper’s confidence. At this point in the season, they defense could really benefit from a re-built Cooper.

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Yes, that is how many running plays Andy Reid called against the Cardinals. The imbalance in Reid’s offense has been a concern all season, regardless of how many men the defense puts in the box. However, it has hit critical mass in the last two contests. Against the Cardinals, he called only 21.8%

That is the lowest called run percentage of the season outside the opener versus the Titans.

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In fact, the called running play percentage has dropped in every contest since the last win versus Seattle. in Arizona, Charles was injured and had to leave the game. It was reasonable to not give him a full load the rest of the day.
That is why the Chiefs have Knile Davis. He is a more than capable stand-in for Charles and he’s proven it. He can catch and his more powerful running style can wear down a defense that is crowding the line with 8 men. Yet, Knile Davis got just 1 carry against Arizona.

After the Cardinals kicked a field goal to end their first drive of the second half, the Chiefs got the ball back leading 14-9. Charles gained 1 yard on first down. Then Reid proceeded to call 7 passing plays in a row. The last two plays resulted in the Fasano interference call and the Alex Smith interception. The play by Okafor to disengage and intercept a badly thrown pass was the turning point. Running the ball on any of the preceding 6 plays may have changed the outcome of the game. That fact rests squarely on Andy Reid.

**BossChief** · 12-10-2014, 10:18 AM

Alex was throwing it deep a lot more last year when the OL was solid and we had an option as a deep threat.

Letting Asamoah, Schwartz AND Albert walk while not doing anything to improve our receivers has crippled this offense to a point that scheming is nearly impossible.

The line can't block and the receivers are total crap.

Garcia Bronco · 12-10-2014, 10:22 AM

Last year..this year...it doesn't matter...the Chiefs got donkey punched

**The Franchise** · 12-10-2014, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Alex was throwing it deep a lot more last year when the OL was solid and we had an option as a deep threat.

Letting Asamoah, Schwartz AND Albert walk while not doing anything to improve our receivers has crippled this offense to a point that scheming is nearly impossible.

The line can't block and the receivers are total crap.

So then Dexter McCluster was the lynchpin of this offense?

**BossChief** · 12-10-2014, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant

So then Dexter McCluster was the lynchpin of this offense?

When Avery (not McCluster, Avant gives us what he did) is healthy, he changes the whole offense.

When he got hurt in the playoff game, the offense went to sleep.

When he got hurt this year, the offense has struggled.

Dorsey needs to come out of this upcoming draft with 2 receivers, 2 OL, 2 MLBs and he needs to keep Houston, Parker and Hudson in KC.

Anything less is a fail in my book.

WhiteWhale · 12-10-2014, 10:33 AM

The problem with bloggers like this is that they tend to have very poor english skills and don't bother proof reading their work.

Stuff like this is more meaningful when it doesn't read like a junior high essay.

Blogging with english skills like that is the same as walking around in a bikini when you weight 600 pounds.

**The Franchise** · 12-10-2014, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

When Avery (not McCluster) is healthy, he changes the whole offense.

When he got hurt in the playoff game, the offense went to sleep.

When he got hurt this year, the offense has struggled.

Dorsey needs to come out of this upcoming draft with 2 receivers, 2 OL, 2 MLBs and he needs to keep Houston, Parker and Hudson in KC.

Anything less is a fail in my book.

So then explain this offense in the first 5 games this season. Avery was healthy for those.

Let me guess....his offensive line sucks.

Or just maybe.....Alex Smith is a worthless piece of shit.

Discuss Thrower · 12-10-2014, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

When Avery (not McCluster, Avant gives us what he did) is healthy, he changes the whole offense.

When he got hurt in the playoff game, the offense went to sleep.

When he got hurt this year, the offense has struggled.

Dorsey needs to come out of this upcoming draft with 2 receivers, 2 OL, 2 MLBs and he needs to keep Houston, Parker and Hudson in KC.

Anything less is a fail in my book.

Problem is that sort of draft won't pay dividends until 2-3 years down the line.

If they do at all.

**BossChief** · 12-10-2014, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant

So then explain this offense in the first 5 games this season. Avery was healthy for those.

Let me guess....his offensive line sucks.

Or just maybe.....Alex Smith is a worthless piece of shit.

This is quite possibly the worst OL in the NFL.

3/5 starters don't even deserve to be backups.

That is in no way an excuse for Alex. Just an objective observation.

I think this OL/WR grouping is the worst in the league.

**BossChief** · 12-10-2014, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Problem is that sort of draft won't pay dividends until 2-3 years down the line.

If they do at all.

I meant to say draft and free agency

**petegz28** · 12-10-2014, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

This is quite possibly the worst OL in the NFL.

3/5 starters don't even deserve to be backups.

That is in no way an excuse for Alex. Just an objective observation.

I think this OL/WR grouping is the worst in the league.

A better OL\WR group and play calling most likely fix the QB problem. The one position, QB, that has some talent is literally being surrounded by broken shit.

Titty Meat · 12-10-2014, 10:53 AM

Even when Alex has time he still misses guys down the field. The Tennessee game, Last drive against the 49ers, and the drive where Kelce fumbled all come to mind.

ILChief · 12-10-2014, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

This is quite possibly the worst OL in the NFL.

3/5 starters don't even deserve to be backups.

That is in no way an excuse for Alex. Just an objective observation.

I think this OL/WR grouping is the worst in the league.

Harris should be a backup

Fulton should be a bottom of the roster or practice squad player

McGlynn should be in the kitchen at Captain D's

**The Franchise** · 12-10-2014, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28

A better OL\WR group and play calling most likely fix the QB problem. The one position, QB, that has some talent is literally being surrounded by broken shit.

Yeah....Alex Smith is the All Pro that's surrounded by shit talent.

**petegz28** · 12-10-2014, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant

Yeah....Alex Smith is the All Pro that's surrounded by shit talent.

Outside of JC, Smith and Kelce...who on this offense is worth a ****? Bowe? Avery? Fasano? Hudson, Fisher, McWhiff?? Please just chime in when I hit on a name...

**petegz28** · 12-10-2014, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog

Even when Alex has time he still misses guys down the field. The Tennessee game, Last drive against the 49ers, and the drive where Kelce fumbled all come to mind.

There is something to that but when you thrown down field once a game you really increase the odds you will miss.

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Chief Roundup Admitted Planet Junky Join Date: Oct 2000 Casino cash: $2081627	Media starting to take "A Hard Look" at Andy Reid http://profootballspot.com/_/nfl/afc...s-part-1-r5430 The latest loss for the Kansas City Chiefs may be the hardest to reconcile. When a team struggles like they did in Arizona the entire organization needs to be ready to find the issues and correct them. Nothing is more corrosive to a team’s confidence than not knowing why its losing. It is the responsibility of both the players and staff. Today, Andy Reid is in looking glass. I’ll discuss the players later this week in a special 2-part Chiefs’ Truths. Evaluate Team including Andy Reid John Dorsey was brought to Kansas City after Andy Reid was hired as Head Coach, supposedly on the recommendation of Reid. Now, he will be in the possibly difficult position of evaluating Reid’s performance leading the team. There are 2 very disturbing trends. The 2013 Kansas City Chiefs started 9-0 there first season on Reid’s leadership. Then came the bye week. After the bye, the Chiefs lost 6 of their next 8 games, bouncing from the playoffs in the first round (again). They were swept by Denver and San Diego and lost twice in three weeks to Indianapolis. For a squad that was young and somewhat cobbled together after the final roster cuts, it was a solid first season. It’s a very big red flag to see the last 3 contests all come out as losses. It hints at 2014 repeating the pattern of 2014’s last 8 games where the Chiefs had two runs of back-to-back-to-back losses. The team was playing for a share of the AFC West lead 3 weeks ago and now will have to claw their way to be in position for the last Wildcard slot. To the eyes outside of the building at Arrowhead Drive, this is looking like a systemic issue with Reid and his staff fading as the season closes. Positions and even careers cannot withstand that kind of trend for long. Stop saying “Its Fixable” and Fix It The second trend seen in Kansas City has been a lack of answers. Reid has been unable to correct any of the issues with his offense. Alex Smith has been sacked and average of 3 times per game in 2014. Even worse, he’s had to deal with 11 sacks in the last 2 contests alone. Yet, there have been no personnel changes and no apparent scheme changes along the offensive line. One notable change was made to the wide receivers by getting some fresh blood, some old and some new, into the lineup. That was generally successful. (more on the players later this week in part 2) Sutton did get a much better performance from his defensive line in Arizona. While Joe Mays bolstered the run defense while he was on the field, Josh Mauga and James-Michael Johnson continue to have assignment breakdowns that allow huge chunks of yardage. Overall his defense still was gashed by the run and unable to get off the field when it counted most. The secondary still has Ron Parker playing out of position at cornerback. Chris Owens has not been as advertised in the slot and Sutton, Emmitt Thomas and Al Harris have not been able to rebuild Marcus Copper’s confidence. At this point in the season, they defense could really benefit from a re-built Cooper. 13 Yes, that is how many running plays Andy Reid called against the Cardinals. The imbalance in Reid’s offense has been a concern all season, regardless of how many men the defense puts in the box. However, it has hit critical mass in the last two contests. Against the Cardinals, he called only 21.8% That is the lowest called run percentage of the season outside the opener versus the Titans. Posted Image In fact, the called running play percentage has dropped in every contest since the last win versus Seattle. in Arizona, Charles was injured and had to leave the game. It was reasonable to not give him a full load the rest of the day. That is why the Chiefs have Knile Davis. He is a more than capable stand-in for Charles and he’s proven it. He can catch and his more powerful running style can wear down a defense that is crowding the line with 8 men. Yet, Knile Davis got just 1 carry against Arizona. After the Cardinals kicked a field goal to end their first drive of the second half, the Chiefs got the ball back leading 14-9. Charles gained 1 yard on first down. Then Reid proceeded to call 7 passing plays in a row. The last two plays resulted in the Fasano interference call and the Alex Smith interception. The play by Okafor to disengage and intercept a badly thrown pass was the turning point. Running the ball on any of the preceding 6 plays may have changed the outcome of the game. That fact rests squarely on Andy Reid.
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