Chiefs New-Look Chiefs Turning Attention to NFL Draft - Page 8

FringeNC · 05:47 PM

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireSto...inglePage=true

The wholesale overhaul of the Kansas City Chiefs is nearly complete.

Andy Reid has been hired to replace Romeo Crennel as coach, and longtime Packers personnel man John Dorsey has replaced Scott ***** as general manager. Most of the assistant coaches are on board, and now the Chiefs can start turning their attention toward the rebuilding job.

That includes preparation for the NFL draft.

The Chiefs finished 2-14 last season, matching the worst record in their 53-year history. But the byproduct of all that on-field suffering is that they have the No. 1 pick for the first time, giving Kansas City a good place to start turning around the team.

"We're in a unique position," said Dorsey, who will work closely with Reid but have final say over personnel decisions. "We all know there is some pressure involved in that."

It is pressure unlike anything he's ever experienced.

Dorsey began his career as a scout for the Packers, and eventually rose to direct of college scouting and director of football operations. But his primary responsibility was assembling the draft board, and the final decision ultimately came down to the Packers' GM — Tom Braatz early in his career, Ron Wolf and Mike Sherman after that, and most recently Ted Thompson.

Now, when the final seconds are ticking away on April 25, all eyes in the Kansas City draft room will turn toward Dorsey for a decision that could shape the future of the franchise.

"Ultimately, we're just trying to win Super Bowls. That's what we're trying to do," said Dorsey, adding that he plans to use a similar blueprint to Green Bay.

"History and time has proven — and that's all I know — but this system works," Dorsey said Monday. "That's what I'm going to try to implement."

Examining the Packers' drafts over the past two decades yields a few ideas about how Dorsey will proceed: He'll likely choose the best player of available, regardless of position needs, but also understands the importance of drafting for depth at quarterback.

Many outsiders panned the choice of quarterback Aaron Rodgers when Brett Favre was firmly ensconced in Green Bay, and Rodgers has turned into a Super Bowl champion. Matt Flynn was picked in the seventh round and became a valuable commodity as a backup, while other guys such as Matt Hasselbeck and Aaron Brooks developed into starters elsewhere in the NFL.

"What we've always tried to do is develop a third guy," Dorsey said, "and develop him and see if he can be a 2 or a 1."

By contrast, the Chiefs have spent only one pick — a fifth-rounder — on a quarterback in the past six drafts, and the result has been disastrous play at the game's marquee position.

Matt Cassel is still under contract, even though he was benched last season. Brady Quinn played just as poorly, while Ricky Stanzi never saw the field during the regular season.

"Any time when you begin to build a franchise, let's be real, the quarterback is a very important part," Dorsey said. "As you note the last couple weeks in the playoffs, the quarterback position is a very important position to the long-term success of the organization."

Important enough to spend the No. 1 overall pick on it?

Not necessarily.

Dorsey and Reid both insisted they plan to draft the best player available, and that may not be a quarterback. West Virginia's Geno Smith is widely considered the best prospect at his position, but some draft analysts believe he's only worthy of a late first-round selection.

"My draft philosophy, you'd love to get good players. That's the primary thing," Reid said. "As the general manager comes in, that's what he's going to do. That's his responsibility."

It's not as if the Chiefs don't have other needs.

Left tackle Branden Albert and wide receiver Dwayne Bowe can both become free agents, and there are gaping holes along the defensive line, at linebacker and in the secondary. And it just so happens that some of the best available players fit those needs: Texas A&M offensive tackle Luke Joeckel, Florida State defensive end Bjoern Werner and George linebacker Jarvis Jones.

One thing that Dorsey made clear is that he won't reach for a player.

"Philosophically, you stay true to your board," he said. "You spend all those months staying true to your board, and all of a sudden you have to jump a player due to positional needs? I don't think you do that. Historically, we have proven you don't do that."

Dorsey plans to keep the Chiefs scouting department intact through the draft, but he's also bringing with him an entire season's worth of his own scouting work from Green Bay.

That will be augmented by work done at college all-star games, various pro days organized by schools, the annual scouting combine and from hour upon hour of highlight tapes.

"It's going to be a focus of our fans, the media and our personnel department here for the next three or so months," Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt said of the No. 1 pick. "It's very important we get that pick right."

———

silver5liter · 01-15-2013, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IAmABabySeal

Look who won the game...Syracuse destroyed them. Geno did absolutely nothing that game. He got lucky that Tavon took a ball to the house on a 3 yard route.

He checked to a quick slant and recognized the blitz how dare Geno! Bad Geno!

CaliforniaChief · 01-15-2013, 07:07 PM

I've said this numerous times and will say it again. I will be shocked if Geno doesn't shoot up draft boards after the combine/pro-day.

He has it all. Size, mobility, accuracy, intelligence, work ethic, experience.

ModSocks · 01-15-2013, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IAmABabySeal

Look who won the game...Syracuse destroyed them. Geno did absolutely nothing that game. He got lucky that Tavon took a ball to the house on a 3 yard route.

Wow.....lol

Geno Smith vs 48th ranked Syracuse Defense: 19/28 201 yards, 2TD's, 0 INTS 7.2YPP

Ryan Nassib vs 108th Ranked WV Defense: 11/23 130 Yards 2 TD's, 1 INT 5.7YPP

Yeah.....about that Ryan played better than Geno thing.....uh huh....

IAmABabySeal · 01-15-2013, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver5liter

He checked to a quick slant and recognized the blitz how dare Geno! Bad Geno!

that change was impressive. I also liked that he lined up behind C pretty often that game.

Saccopoo · 01-15-2013, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IAmABabySeal

He's had his fair share of good games, never denied that he's a 1st round QB. YOu can say f value all you want, but at the end of the day it's getting a guy at #1 who you know makes you a better team instantly.

For the 1,000,000,000 time...

And who is that? What player in this draft is going to make this team instantly better than Geno Smith?

There isn't one, you dumb shit goat raper.

silver5liter · 01-15-2013, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IAmABabySeal

that change was impressive. I also liked that he lined up behind C pretty often that game.

It was pretty obvious they were showing he can drop back from under center. Im just saying idk why you dont like him.

Have you seen this yet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTZZh4cKfXs

IAmABabySeal · 01-15-2013, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Wow.....lol

Geno Smith vs 48th ranked Syracuse Defense: 19/28 201 yards, 2TD's, 0 INTS 7.2YPP

Ryan Nassib vs 108th Ranked WV Defense: 11/23 130 Yards 2 TD's, 1 INT 5.7YPP

Yeah.....about that Ryan played better than Geno thing.....uh huh....

Supastar stats all around...neither had a good game so who cares. Hopefully we don't have to travel to Denver or anywhere cold in the winter if he's drafted.

silver5liter · 01-15-2013, 07:15 PM

Was more of a problem with wrs falling down than it was with geno throwing in the snow from me watching. They went ultra conservative due to it.

Saccopoo · 01-15-2013, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IAmABabySeal

Supastar stats all around...neither had a good game so who cares. Hopefully we don't have to travel to Denver or anywhere cold in the winter if he's drafted.

You are talking about Nassib, correct?

I mean, since he had a significantly worse game than Geno.

And I'm waiting to see your reasoning why Nassib is better than Geno.

IAmABabySeal · 01-15-2013, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver5liter

It was pretty obvious they were showing he can drop back from under center. Im just saying idk why you dont like him.

Have you seen this yet?

I could be wrong about him, he could be the next Joe Montana...but I don't like him at #1 overall. Trade back a few spots and gather some more ammo and I wouldn't be opposed. If somebody jumps and takes, oh well. Wouldn't you rather be on the suck for Bridgewater band wagon next year? Especially with Clowney coming out and will almost def go #1 overall?

silver5liter · 01-15-2013, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

You are talking about Nassib, correct?

I mean, since he had a significantly worse game than Geno.

And I'm waiting to see your reasoning why Nassib is better than Geno.

But But Geno's o line collapsed in the end zone and he gave up 2 safeties!

IAmABabySeal · 01-15-2013, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

You are talking about Nassib, correct?

I mean, since he had a significantly worse game than Geno.

And I'm waiting to see your reasoning why Nassib is better than Geno.

Never said he's better, though I think he is....equal arm, does more with less, smarter and helped spark a turnaround at one of the laughing stock of football colleges.

Nassib is a gun slinger though...reminds me of a young Farve.
Learn to read, I don't like Geno at #1 overall

silver5liter · 01-15-2013, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IAmABabySeal

I could be wrong about him, he could be the next Joe Montana...but I don't like him at #1 overall. Trade back a few spots and gather some more ammo and I wouldn't be opposed. If somebody jumps and takes, oh well. Wouldn't you rather be on the suck for Bridgewater band wagon next year? Especially with Clowney coming out and will almost def go #1 overall?

God no, if we have the 1st over all pick next year something is wrong. Having the first overall pick doesnt come along very often, even for shitty teams.

silver5liter · 01-15-2013, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IAmABabySeal

Never said he's better, though I think he is....equal arm, does more with less, smarter and helped spark a turnaround at one of the laughing stock of football colleges.

Nassib is a gun slinger though...reminds me of a young Farve.
Learn to read, I don't like Geno at #1 overall

But you did just say Nassib is better. Gotcha

IAmABabySeal · 01-15-2013, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver5liter

God no, if we have the 1st over all pick next year something is wrong. Having the first overall pick doesnt come along very often, even for shitty teams.

There is enough talent on this team to win 5 or 6 games right now...you don't need the #1 pick I'd think for Teddy since Clowney will be picked there unless he gets injured.

01-15-2013, 05:17 PM
FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $1816014	New-Look Chiefs Turning Attention to NFL Draft http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireSto...inglePage=true The wholesale overhaul of the Kansas City Chiefs is nearly complete. Andy Reid has been hired to replace Romeo Crennel as coach, and longtime Packers personnel man John Dorsey has replaced Scott *** as general manager. Most of the assistant coaches are on board, and now the Chiefs can start turning their attention toward the rebuilding job. That includes preparation for the NFL draft. The Chiefs finished 2-14 last season, matching the worst record in their 53-year history. But the byproduct of all that on-field suffering is that they have the No. 1 pick for the first time, giving Kansas City a good place to start turning around the team. "We're in a unique position," said Dorsey, who will work closely with Reid but have final say over personnel decisions. "We all know there is some pressure involved in that." It is pressure unlike anything he's ever experienced. Dorsey began his career as a scout for the Packers, and eventually rose to direct of college scouting and director of football operations. But his primary responsibility was assembling the draft board, and the final decision ultimately came down to the Packers' GM — Tom Braatz early in his career, Ron Wolf and Mike Sherman after that, and most recently Ted Thompson. Now, when the final seconds are ticking away on April 25, all eyes in the Kansas City draft room will turn toward Dorsey for a decision that could shape the future of the franchise. "Ultimately, we're just trying to win Super Bowls. That's what we're trying to do," said Dorsey, adding that he plans to use a similar blueprint to Green Bay. "History and time has proven — and that's all I know — but this system works," Dorsey said Monday. "That's what I'm going to try to implement." Examining the Packers' drafts over the past two decades yields a few ideas about how Dorsey will proceed: He'll likely choose the best player of available, regardless of position needs, but also understands the importance of drafting for depth at quarterback. Many outsiders panned the choice of quarterback Aaron Rodgers when Brett Favre was firmly ensconced in Green Bay, and Rodgers has turned into a Super Bowl champion. Matt Flynn was picked in the seventh round and became a valuable commodity as a backup, while other guys such as Matt Hasselbeck and Aaron Brooks developed into starters elsewhere in the NFL. "What we've always tried to do is develop a third guy," Dorsey said, "and develop him and see if he can be a 2 or a 1." By contrast, the Chiefs have spent only one pick — a fifth-rounder — on a quarterback in the past six drafts, and the result has been disastrous play at the game's marquee position. Matt Cassel is still under contract, even though he was benched last season. Brady Quinn played just as poorly, while Ricky Stanzi never saw the field during the regular season. "Any time when you begin to build a franchise, let's be real, the quarterback is a very important part," Dorsey said. "As you note the last couple weeks in the playoffs, the quarterback position is a very important position to the long-term success of the organization." Important enough to spend the No. 1 overall pick on it? Not necessarily. Dorsey and Reid both insisted they plan to draft the best player available, and that may not be a quarterback. West Virginia's Geno Smith is widely considered the best prospect at his position, but some draft analysts believe he's only worthy of a late first-round selection. "My draft philosophy, you'd love to get good players. That's the primary thing," Reid said. "As the general manager comes in, that's what he's going to do. That's his responsibility." It's not as if the Chiefs don't have other needs. Left tackle Branden Albert and wide receiver Dwayne Bowe can both become free agents, and there are gaping holes along the defensive line, at linebacker and in the secondary. And it just so happens that some of the best available players fit those needs: Texas A&M offensive tackle Luke Joeckel, Florida State defensive end Bjoern Werner and George linebacker Jarvis Jones. One thing that Dorsey made clear is that he won't reach for a player.** "Philosophically, you stay true to your board," he said. "You spend all those months staying true to your board, and all of a sudden you have to jump a player due to positional needs? I don't think you do that. Historically, we have proven you don't do that." Dorsey plans to keep the Chiefs scouting department intact through the draft, but he's also bringing with him an entire season's worth of his own scouting work from Green Bay. That will be augmented by work done at college all-star games, various pro days organized by schools, the annual scouting combine and from hour upon hour of highlight tapes. "It's going to be a focus of our fans, the media and our personnel department here for the next three or so months," Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt said of the No. 1 pick. "It's very important we get that pick right." ——— Last edited by FringeNC; 01-15-2013 at 05:47 PM.. Reason: bold parts as requested for the pathologically lazy
Posts: 10,171

01-15-2013, 07:07 PM	#107
CaliforniaChief #RIPAce Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: So Cal Casino cash: $12422899	I've said this numerous times and will say it again. I will be shocked if Geno doesn't shoot up draft boards after the combine/pro-day. He has it all. Size, mobility, accuracy, intelligence, work ethic, experience.
Posts: 17,319

01-15-2013, 07:15 PM	#113
silver5liter ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK Join Date: Jul 2012 Casino cash: $10005135	Was more of a problem with wrs falling down than it was with geno throwing in the snow from me watching. They went ultra conservative due to it.
Posts: 1,722