Money Work Situation, What would you do?

**Buck** · 05-07-2008, 07:46 PM

Tomorrow is a big day for me at my workplace.

I am going to have new responsibilities because they just let someone go. So I get to do all the work I've been doing, plus that person's work.

This is inevitably going to lead into lots of Overtime.

They already told me they want me to go on Salary w/ a Raise. They will most likely offer a $1/hr raise. That would mean $40 more a week.

HOWEVER, at my current payrate, I would have to work less than 2 hours of Overtime in a week to make an extra $40 on my paycheck.

I will probably be working 6-10 hours of overtime a week.

If you were me, how much of a raise would you ask for?

Do you think asking for a $2.50 raise is out of line on my part? They did just save $18/hr or so by letting that one person go, so what is $2.50?

Thanks for your response.

**DeezNutz** · 05-07-2008, 07:53 PM

No. Ask for more than you want and accept a compromise--the figure you actually have in mind.

**Buehler445** · 05-07-2008, 07:58 PM

Yeah, they are definitely boning you on that deal. Do you get any additional bennys for being salary?

**Buck** · 05-07-2008, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

No. Ask for more than you want and accept a compromise--the figure you actually have in mind.

I just think it would be ridiculous asking for a $4 raise.

The way I figure it, I would be making about $220 extra a week if I worked 10 hours.

So if I wanted that extra $200, that would be a $5 raise.

Wa-Z · 05-07-2008, 07:59 PM

Economically it makes sense for you to ask for more, give it a shot.

**Buck** · 05-07-2008, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Yeah, they are definitely boning you on that deal. Do you get any additional bennys for being salary?

Other than it doesn't hurt me when I have a Doctors Appointment, no.

I already get Paid Holidays, Sick Pay, and 1 Week Vacation. I don't think they are going to up any of that.

JohnnyV13 · 05-07-2008, 08:01 PM

First of all, they are saving more than 18/hr, because employees usually cost at least a third to 1/2 their hourly pay in benefits and training expense.

I guess the question I have for you is, what do you gain by going on salary?

**KcMizzou** · 05-07-2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Wa-Z

Economically it makes sense for you to ask for more, give it a shot.

Yeah... don't low-ball yourself. They won't give you more than you ask for. Can't hurt to ask...

That said, try not to go overboard (and end up sounding like a greedy dick) either.

**Buck** · 05-07-2008, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13

First of all, they are saving more than 18/hr, because employees usually cost at least a third to 1/2 their hourly pay in benefits and training expense.

I guess the question I have for you is, what do you gain by going on salary?

I have Nothing to Gain by going on Salary, but they don't want to pay Overtime anymore, so I am sorta being asked to go on it.

**DeezNutz** · 05-07-2008, 08:52 PM

I agree with KcMizzou on this. You should definitely ask for a raise, but try to manage what you want vs. what is in your best interests politically at the job. You probably already have a good idea what the reaction may or may not be.

**Bugeater** · 05-07-2008, 08:57 PM

You're only going to have to work 6-10 hours to pick up the slack from the other person? He/she must have been worthless. Anyway, you're getting ****ed and there's probably nothing you can do about it.

**Rain Man** · 05-07-2008, 08:59 PM

Is this a career track job for you? If it is, you should say, "Thank you, sir, and this will prove to be a great decision on your part.", and take the raise they offer. Then, in your next review after you've proven yourself, maybe you can comment that you've performed well and make the case for a raise to $XX.

Unless your employer is clueless, they recognize the valuable employees and will make financial decisions that will keep them to the extent possible. My advice is to never worry about money and just do your job in the best manner possible. If at some point you don't think you're making what you're worth, then shop around and see what the market will bring. I think it's rarely positive to try to negotiate with your employer.

(I should mention that this was my philosophy as an employee, and isn't just my jawing and positioning as an employer.)

**Buck** · 05-07-2008, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBo

You're only going to have to work 6-10 hours to pick up the slack from the other person? He/she must have been worthless. Anyway, you're getting ****ed and there's probably nothing you can do about it.

Thats why they were canned.

I averaged 160 jobs a month, she averaged 75 and has been there 2 years longer than me.

Spott · 05-07-2008, 09:00 PM

I would tell the cheap bastards to stick it if they want to put you on salary and force you to work OT. They are already saving money by not paying the other employee so they should have no problem paying your overtime. If you do go on salary, don't work any more than 40 hours a week.

**Rain Man** · 05-07-2008, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott

I would tell the cheap bastards to stick it if they want to put you on salary and force you to work OT. They are already saving money by not paying the other employee so they should have no problem paying your overtime. If you do go on salary, don't work any more than 40 hours a week.

Unless of course you want to be successful in the long term.

Oh, and Spott - THE JEZZBALL CROWN IS MINE! Bwahahahaha.

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