Football Weis to coach KU - Page 19

Fansy the Famous Bard · 12-08-2011, 04:16 PM

http://www.kuathletics.com/sports/m-...120811aad.html

Moved to Florida for family eh?

WV · 12-09-2011, 11:18 AM

Is this a promotion or demotion?

FringeNC · 12-09-2011, 11:30 AM

There is a reason most college teams use a spread offense. Very few teams can run a pro-style offense at the college ranks because it requires talent all over the place to work. Sure, USC runs it effectively, but how many others?

**Bearcat** · 12-09-2011, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Spin that.

Yeah, it's all Charlie Weis' fault. The kid was awesome last year...

Code:

YEAR	TEAM 	CMP 	ATT 	PCT 	YDS 	AVG 	TD 	LNG 	INT 	RAT
2011	FLA      132 	224 	58.9 	1912 	8.5 	10 	83 	6 	140.0

2010	FLA      200 	329 	60.8 	2061 	6.3 	9 	51 	10 	116.4

The kid gets a new OC in a new offense after a new coach the previous year, playing against top 20 defenses every other week in the SEC, he wasn't that great last year, and that's "spin".

Any one of those things might be seen as an excuse, but to think Weis would step in and perform miracles in one year in that situation is absurd. Not to say it's a horrible place to be, but FFS, might it be a challenge?

Like I said in the other thread, it's something worth researching beyond the numbers. I don't know what went on at Florida, but at least I don't act like I do.

Awful coach. Awful hire. Awful institution. We get it.

Happy cherry picking.

**Saul Good** · 12-09-2011, 11:55 AM

So he threw for fewer yards, lower percentage, and fewer TDs his second season as a starter?

Pants · 12-09-2011, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

So he threw for fewer yards, lower percentage, and fewer TDs his second season as a starter?

With more yards per attempt and fewer interceptions. See? I can cherry pick too!

**Saul Good** · 12-09-2011, 12:18 PM

And 3 wins against BCS teams. And the 103rd ranked offense in college football, edging out KU by a handful of spots.

**Kyle DeLexus** · 12-09-2011, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

So he threw for fewer yards, lower percentage, and fewer TDs his second season as a starter?

Well if those stats are correct than no, he threw 9 TD's in 2010 and 10 TD's in 2011.

Bambi · 12-09-2011, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus

Well if those stats are correct than no, he threw 9 TD's in 2010 and 10 TD's in 2011.

Brantley's 2nd year (the only one under Weis) looks much better than the year before.

I'm not sure I'm understanding the argument.

Pants · 12-09-2011, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

And 3 wins against BCS teams. And the 103rd ranked offense in college football, edging out KU by a handful of spots.

Ya, dude, everyone knows that Weis is terrible when it comes to coaching an offense. I think you should concentrate on his lack of success at ND as a head coach than a bad year on a shitty Florida team. That's what I'm personally worried about.

Things I'm not worried about:

- Weis' NFL connections and his recruiting
- Weis' ability to coach offense
- Weis' ability to coach a QB

Bambi · 12-09-2011, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

Ya, dude, everyone knows that Weis is terrible when it comes to coaching an offense. I think you should concentrate on his lack of success at ND as a head coach than a bad year on a shitty Florida team. That's what I'm personally worried about.

Things I'm not worried about:

- Weis' NFL connections and his recruiting
- Weis' ability to coach offense
- Weis' ability to coach a QB

Petro made a good point earlier regarding usually head coaches are much more successful their second time in that position (Belichik, Shula, etc.)

Pants · 12-09-2011, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

Petro made a good point earlier regarding usually head coaches are much more successful their second time in that position (Belichik, Shula, etc.)

I think that's the reason he took the job. I think his ego is dictating this and he wants to prove that he can be a successful HC. I don't see any other reason for him to come coach here.

**The Franchise** · 12-09-2011, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

Ya, dude, everyone knows that Weis is terrible when it comes to coaching an offense. I think you should concentrate on his lack of success at ND as a head coach than a bad year on a shitty Florida team. That's what I'm personally worried about.

Things I'm not worried about:

- Weis' NFL connections and his recruiting
- Weis' ability to coach offense
- Weis' ability to coach a QB

You better hope to God that you bring in an awesome DC.

Bambi · 12-09-2011, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

I think that's the reason he took the job. I think his ego is dictating this and he wants to prove that he can be a successful HC. I don't see any other reason for him to come coach here.

Fine with me.

Lock up Crist with a great show at AFH tomorrow and bring in Leavitt and away you go.

Pants · 12-09-2011, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

You better hope to God that you bring in an awesome DC.

I am. You think ND's defense was bad under Weis, but you really don't know what a bad defense is and I hope you never find out.

Us Kansas fans know.

GloryDayz · 12-09-2011, 06:06 PM

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