****Official **** You Mike Mayock Thread****

[In58men]

http://m.nfl.com/news/0ap1000000140130/

The Kansas City Chiefs need a quarterback, but there aren't any this season that look like a top-ten talent, much less a No. 1 overall pick.

The way Mike Mayock sees it, the Chiefs should be looking to the offensive line for their first overall pick. And there are only four players worth the No. 1 overall pick in this draft for Kansas City: Alabama guard Chance Warmack, UNC guard Jonathan Cooper, Texas A&M tackle Luke Joekel, or Central Michigan tackle Eric Fisher.

Mayock said on a conference call Monday that some people will say he's crazy to potentially take a guard at No. 1 overall, but Mayock says Warmack is the best player in this draft. So he doesn't see it as crazy at all.

In the end, Mayock believes the pick could come down to Joekel or Warmack. This is a draft where the top-shelf players don't stand apart too much, and there may not be a huge difference between picks 5 and 25. That makes it a tricky spot for the Chiefs.

Don't be surprised if Kansas City builds from the inside out, and finds their quarterback of the future later.



He gives the Chiefs 4 options at #1 and they're all offensive lineman? Go **** yourself bro

@Jacobs71: Here is what Mayock said on #Chiefs pick in full "Well, part of it depends on what they're going to do with free agency and Branden Albert."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think the answer to that, obviously, is going to give you the answer. Sitting where they are, let's face it, they need a QB."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"We don't know that there are a lot of people who think Geno Smith is in that ballpark."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I don't, but there are a lot of people that think he should be considered."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"When you look at what they're going to do, what are they going to do with Dwayne Bowe?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" Whoever the quarterback is, they need a wide receiver. And I think John Dorsey has to be thinking what is the big picture here?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I've got one, and I've got 34. What is the best combination of getting the most value out of that?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"And I think that offensive lineman at 1 is the most solid guy they can go with."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I don't care whether it's Warmack or Joeckel. People will tell me I'm crazy that a guard can't go No. 1."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think he's the best player in the draft, so I would argue that."


@Jacobs71: Mayock:" But either way, I think they've got to get an offensive lineman and come back at 33 and prepare to go with a QB or WR."

@Jacobs71: When I asked Mayock about who fits Reid's system at QB: " I think Matt Barkley makes a lot of sense."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" He's a guy as a junior at USC looked so much different than he did this year."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"With Landry Jones and Tyler Wilson, I think all three of those guys you have to go back and watch junior tape. "

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" So I think Barkley fits what he does. I think Ryan Nassib fits what he does."


@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think Landry Jones and Tyler Wilson both can fit what he does."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"So of those, that group of guys of the top seven, eight quarterbacks, I think those are the guys that did it most efficiently."

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Messier

Not if he keeps Foles.

You really think Dennis Dixon or Foles are going to keep him from taking a QB he basically rolled the red carpet out over to get in his system?

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

The Raiders aren't the Raiders of old.


And you act as if he's this untalented hack. Jesus ****ing Christ dude.

Never said he wasn't talented.

And their staff blows. Dennis Allen sucks.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by tk13

Maybe that's all he will be. Flacco was barely that his first two years. He won a playoff game with a 4/10 passing game. Eli Manning wasn't that great early on either.

I actually didn't like Dalton that much coming out, but he's done a solid job. If he continues to improve, he's going to be one of the best QBs in the AFC.

He has done a solid job, but I just don't know that he has any more room to improve.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by O.city

Well, he's also on a pretty good team. But it seems you think alot higher of Dalton than I do. I don't see him as much more than a high end game manager.


But like we've said before, with the shit we've had, I'd absolutely take that.

He is a franchise QB because he went to a shitpile team and made them a playoff team.

I'd love it if we could draft Geno and get that out of him...and I think we absolutely would.

Even better, in fact.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Never said he wasn't talented.

And their staff blows. Dennis Allen sucks.

You said, "even if he's talented".


I took that as, if he is found out to be talented.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by O.city

You really think Dennis Dixon or Foles are going to keep him from taking a QB he basically rolled the red carpet out over to get in his system?

Vick, Foles, Dixon, and Smith? With those three Kelly would wait for a QB later, if at all.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Messier

Vick, Foles, Dixon, and Smith? With those three Kelly would wait for a QB later, if at all.

Again, you're reading way too much into Dennis Dixon, he may not even make it to camp.


Foles, whether you like him or not, isn't Kelly's guy.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

You said, "even if he's talented".


I took that as, if he is found out to be talented.

Rephrase: If he turns out to be a pro bowl talent.

The Raiders don't scare me at all. They have a horrible coaching staff. If I was Geno, I would pull an Elway/Eli if the Raiders picked me.

[O.city]

I'd actually be intrigued to see Geno in Chip Kelly's form of his offense in the NFL. I figure he's going to take out alot of the read option, with a little sprinkled in.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by O.city

Again, you're reading way too much into Dennis Dixon, he may not even make it to camp.


Foles, whether you like him or not, isn't Kelly's guy.

Kelly said he wants to keep Foles, Vick is making 10 mil. Smith would be on the bench for a season most likely, I guess if Kelly sees him as a can't miss prospect he'd take him, but Smith isn't can't miss.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Messier

Kelly said he wants to keep Foles, Vick is making 10 mil. Smith would be on the bench for a season most likely, I guess if Kelly sees him as a can't miss prospect he'd take him, but Smith isn't can't miss.

IIRC, Vick is only being paid about 3 million this year.

And you yourself have said everything we hear right now is coachspeak and smoke. So which is it with Foles?



So if Kelly see's him that way he might take him, but he won't see him that way? Ok.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by O.city

IIRC, Vick is only being paid about 3 million this year.

And you yourself have said everything we hear right now is coachspeak and smoke. So which is it with Foles?



So if Kelly see's him that way he might take him, but he won't see him that way? Ok.

I said what now?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Messier

I said what now?

IIRC, and it's late so I might not be, so before I get into it, forgive me if I'm wrong, but you've been the one talking everyone off the ledge about how it doesn't matter whats being said right now.

[BossChief]

I think Geno is gonna impress with his 40 time.

There have been a couple runs where he was able to showcase his wheels. He just didn't have to in the air raid system.

If he had a coach that was worth a ****, they would have ran him a few times against KSt and Clemson because they were doing everything they could to keep everybody in coverage to force Geno to be conservative...defenses simply didn't need to prepare for something Geno has skills at.

[O.city]

And if Kelly is going to run any semblance of an offense in Philly that he did in Eugene, Geno fits better than any of those three.