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Old 02-18-2013, 01:33 PM  
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****Official **** You Mike Mayock Thread**** (OP UPDATED)
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The Kansas City Chiefs need a quarterback, but there aren't any this season that look like a top-ten talent, much less a No. 1 overall pick.

The way Mike Mayock sees it, the Chiefs should be looking to the offensive line for their first overall pick. And there are only four players worth the No. 1 overall pick in this draft for Kansas City: Alabama guard Chance Warmack, UNC guard Jonathan Cooper, Texas A&M tackle Luke Joekel, or Central Michigan tackle Eric Fisher.

Mayock said on a conference call Monday that some people will say he's crazy to potentially take a guard at No. 1 overall, but Mayock says Warmack is the best player in this draft. So he doesn't see it as crazy at all.

In the end, Mayock believes the pick could come down to Joekel or Warmack. This is a draft where the top-shelf players don't stand apart too much, and there may not be a huge difference between picks 5 and 25. That makes it a tricky spot for the Chiefs.

Don't be surprised if Kansas City builds from the inside out, and finds their quarterback of the future later.



He gives the Chiefs 4 options at #1 and they're all offensive lineman? Go **** yourself bro

@Jacobs71: Here is what Mayock said on #Chiefs pick in full "Well, part of it depends on what they're going to do with free agency and Branden Albert."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think the answer to that, obviously, is going to give you the answer. Sitting where they are, let's face it, they need a QB."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"We don't know that there are a lot of people who think Geno Smith is in that ballpark."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I don't, but there are a lot of people that think he should be considered."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"When you look at what they're going to do, what are they going to do with Dwayne Bowe?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" Whoever the quarterback is, they need a wide receiver. And I think John Dorsey has to be thinking what is the big picture here?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I've got one, and I've got 34. What is the best combination of getting the most value out of that?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"And I think that offensive lineman at 1 is the most solid guy they can go with."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I don't care whether it's Warmack or Joeckel. People will tell me I'm crazy that a guard can't go No. 1."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think he's the best player in the draft, so I would argue that."


@Jacobs71: Mayock:" But either way, I think they've got to get an offensive lineman and come back at 33 and prepare to go with a QB or WR."

@Jacobs71: When I asked Mayock about who fits Reid's system at QB: " I think Matt Barkley makes a lot of sense."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" He's a guy as a junior at USC looked so much different than he did this year."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"With Landry Jones and Tyler Wilson, I think all three of those guys you have to go back and watch junior tape. "

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" So I think Barkley fits what he does. I think Ryan Nassib fits what he does."


@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think Landry Jones and Tyler Wilson both can fit what he does."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"So of those, that group of guys of the top seven, eight quarterbacks, I think those are the guys that did it most efficiently."
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:55 PM   #406
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You guys are sticking to the Dalton name, when all I meant was a second round rookie. You are actually proving my point.

Why trade for someone when we can get a rookie to do that?
Because none of these rookies are as good as Nick Foles!

Plus we have to draft an OL.
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You can't necessarily get a rookie to do that. That's a pretty high bar to set. Cam Newton didn't do it.
What?

Cam Newton threw for 400 yards in his first game.

If we trade for Foles, he will be compared to the best QB from this class his whole career.

That's fair.
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:56 PM   #408
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Because none of these rookies are as good as Nick Foles!

Plus we have to draft an OL.
I guess.
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What?

Cam Newton threw for 400 yards in his first game.
I was referring to my previous post. Read. None of those guys have done all of those things Dalton has done.
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You can't necessarily get a rookie to do that. That's a pretty high bar to set. Cam Newton didn't do it. Jake Locker didn't do it. Ponder didn't do it. Freeman didn't do it. Bradford didn't do it.
Throw for 3500 yards in a year with a 2:1 TD ratio?
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:57 PM   #411
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What?

Cam Newton threw for 400 yards in his first game.

If we trade for Foles, he will be compared to the best QB from this class his whole career.

That's fair.
If we pass on Geno, he is gonna blow the **** up as a Raider.

I can't stomach that.
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If we pass on Geno, he is gonna blow the **** up as a Raider.

I can't stomach that.
No he's not. Even if he's talented, the Raiders will ruin him. They don't have the staff to develop a QB.
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With two winning records, two playoff appearances. Yes.
Well, he's also on a pretty good team. But it seems you think alot higher of Dalton than I do. I don't see him as much more than a high end game manager.


But like we've said before, with the shit we've had, I'd absolutely take that.
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If we pass on Geno, he is gonna blow the **** up as a Raider.

I can't stomach that.
The Raiders aren't taking Smith. He'll fall to the Cards
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No he's not. Even if he's talented, the Raiders will ruin him. They don't have the staff to develop a QB.
The Raiders aren't the Raiders of old.


And you act as if he's this untalented hack. Jesus ****ing Christ dude.
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The Raiders aren't taking Smith. He'll fall to the Cards
After reading about all of his history with Chip Kelly, I don't think he makes it past the Eagles at 4.
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I would give Foles a small chance, as I already said. I was a fan of his in college and if he fails, maybe a kid we already drafted gets a shot.

He only started 6 games and threw for almost 1700 yards...but only 6 tds.

Plus, he has 3 years he would need to play before he could get a raise...no 63 situation.
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After reading about all of his history with Chip Kelly, I don't think he makes it past the Eagles at 4.
Not if he keeps Foles.
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Maybe that's all he will be. Flacco was barely that his first two years. He won a playoff game with a 4/10 passing game. Eli Manning wasn't that great early on either.

I actually didn't like Dalton that much coming out, but he's done a solid job. If he continues to improve, he's going to be one of the best QBs in the AFC. Or maybe he'll turn into a pumpkin like Sanchez. But he's certainly earned at least a couple years of leeway.
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