need advice with family issue

[tooge]

Originally Posted by Saul Too

Let's look at it differently.

What would you want your children to do if you died and your wife was dating an abusive man (far enough in the future when they would be the same age that you are now)?

I'd want my kids to get my wife out of the house. I'd want them to confront him, but not in front of my grandkids. that is a great point by the way.

[Iowanian]

What would Jules Winnfield say and do?



Maybe if you decide to go, you can offer to lead the family meal prayer and recite
Ezekiel 25:17



Offering to have dinner at your house might be a good option too.

[Mile High Mania]

Yeah, the sticky part to all of this is what happens when you don't show up? Does that create some 'issues' that become amplified when Mr. Good Guy decides to drink a few that night? You never know how things can escalate...

If you're there - you can always use your best judgement to leave and/or have the children leave the room/house while you address the situation.

Sounds like your mom is in a bad place and feels that she needs this guy's company because ... well, she doesn't like being alone and while this guy is likely 100% bad news, she tries to deal with it.

Either way, it's nearly a lose/lose situation for you. Do you deprive your kids time at grandmas? Do you leave your mom high and dry at an emotional time of year? This could make her tie to this guy even stronger.

I dunno... I do feel bad for you and your mom though. I think you need to suck it up and do what's right even if you don't like it or think it's best. There's a time and place to stand your ground, I'm not certain this is it.

[Ace Gunner]

oh and build your relationship with the BF -- let him feel ya. If she likes the guy, it's worth your time. It's normal for a son to protect your mom.

[blaise]

I would not go. Your kids come first and that's not a good environment. Eventually, he's going to keep returning to his patterns and show his true colors again, and hopefully your mom won't get hurt in the process.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by blaise

I would not go. Your kids come first and that's not a good environment. Eventually, he's going to keep returning to his patterns and show his true colors again, and hopefully your mom won't get hurt in the process.

This. You're a father first and a son second.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Brock

This. You're a father first and a son second.

You can view it as a teaching moment too... one day, your kids will grow up and how would you like them to handle a similar situation? I don't know how old the kids are, so they may not be ready for it.

The good news is that YOU can be ready for it and YOU will be ready for it... plan accordingly and do right by the family.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

You can view it as a teaching moment too... one day, your kids will grow up and how would you like them to handle a similar situation? I don't know how old the kids are, so they may not be ready for it.

The good news is that YOU can be ready for it and YOU will be ready for it... plan accordingly and do right by the family.

I want my kids to raise their kids, not try to protect me from my own screwed up choices. That's how it works.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Brock

I want my kids to raise their kids, not try to protect me from my own screwed up choices. That's how it works.

I'm not saying that's the wrong way to look at it... but, this is his mother. I'd like to think that if something like this were to happen in my family, that my brother or I would support my mom. I'd like to know that down the road... my boys would do what they need to do to support their mom.

I don't know if his mom has a history of bad decisions or not - is this just abnormal and a bad deal because she's trying to live her life for the first time in forever without his father (died 4 years ago) and she's just in a hell of a bad relationship? If so, then he needs to support his mother and not bail out on her - regardless of how f'ed up this could be...

Family is family, he doesn't show up and the drunk boyfriend wins and further dictates how life rolls.

[Iowanian]

Originally Posted by Brock

This. You're a father first and a son second.

Third.

How you play this teaches your kids a significant lesson about how they are to deal with relationships. The last thing you want is for your daughter to think it's OK to be treated like this by a man, and your sons sure shouldn't learn that it's ever OK to treat a woman like this.


I have a serious protective streak and my initial impulse response might not be the best solution. I'm honestly a little torn, but I think remembering that your utmost important responsibility to your children and their protection is your best true north.

[Radar Chief]

By not going you’re not only hurting your mom your letting the doucher win. He will have then successfully chased you away from your own family. Don’t know if that’s his goal or not but **** him regardless. Go and make him the uncomfortable one. Keep your trap, mostly, shut but make sure he leaves knowing that if he ever lays a finger on your mother in anger he’ll finish his life eating through a straw and shitting in a bag.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

By not going you’re not only hurting your mom you letting the doucher win. He will have then successfully chased you away from your own family. Don’t know if that’s his goal or not but **** him regardless. Go and make him the uncomfortable one. Keep your trap, mostly, shut but make sure he leaves knowing that if he ever lays a finger on your mother in anger he’ll finish his life eating through a straw and shitting in a bag.

This is the way to go. You can do this and shield your kids, but if you don't go ... he wins and your family loses, including your mom.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

By not going you’re not only hurting your mom your letting the doucher win. He will have then successfully chased you away from your own family. Don’t know if that’s his goal or not but **** him regardless. Go and make him the uncomfortable one. Keep your trap, mostly, shut but make sure he leaves knowing that if he ever lays a finger on your mother in anger he’ll finish his life eating through a straw and shitting in a bag.

FYP

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

By not going you’re not only hurting your mom your letting the doucher win. He will have then successfully chased you away from your own family. Don’t know if that’s his goal or not but **** him regardless. Go and make him the uncomfortable one. Keep your trap, mostly, shut but make sure he leaves knowing that if he ever lays a finger on your mother in anger he’ll finish his life eating through a straw and shitting in a bag.

This is a good point. If you go, he'll be more uncomfortable and insecure than you will be. You win just by showing up and not talking to him.

The point about the kids is valid, so if you don't want your kids to see the discomfort, just go on your own and do their Thanksgiving at home. Two turkeys never killed anybody unless someone has a hunting story that I haven't heard.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

This is a good point. If you go, he'll be more uncomfortable and insecure than you will be. You win just by showing up and not talking to him.

The point about the kids is valid, so if you don't want your kids to see the discomfort, just go on your own and do their Thanksgiving at home. Two turkeys never killed anybody unless someone has a hunting story that I haven't heard.

I've been waiting and reading before I responded just to clear up my feelings, and this is it. I think by not going you're pushing her closer to him.

Good luck to you and your mom, whichever route you travel.