Chiefs Peter King: John Dorsey, a rookie who doesnt have time to be a rookie - Page 4

Deberg_1990 · 03-19-2013, 02:50 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...1_a6&eref=sihp

John Dorsey: A rookie who doesn't have time to be a rookie.

"You see the bottom drop out of the market, and you react."

It wasn't the trade for Alex Smith, which seemed easy even though the pricetag (a second-round pick this year, and another high pick next year) was high, or the signing of backup quarterback Chase Daniel to give the Chiefs good quarterbacks at first- and second-string. Nor was it the decision to sign Dwayne Bowe to franchise receiver money, or to franchise left tackle Branden Albert. It was stretching to get 6-foot-3 cornerback Sean Smith from Miami, when the cornerback market was crashing and Dorsey didn't have much time to decide what was right or wrong.

"We had decided we were going to address free agency, but in a frugal way, after we signed our own guys,'' Dorsey said. "One of the things I've learned is it's not smart to go what I call the JUCO route, taking players who might be only short-term fits. We want to take guys at reasonable prices who can be core players. When the corner market changed, we really had to go after Sean.''

To clinch the deal, Dorsey paid $7.5 million in year one, which means Smith won't be a one-year fix; he'll be a relative bargain at $3.5 million in year two.

I like the fact that both Reid and Dorsey think Alex Smith throws the ball well enough downfield to commit to him. He doesn't have a top-10 arm in the league, nor a top-15. But he's certainly good enough. "We looked at every plus-10 throw he made in the last two years with the Niners,'' said Dorsey, meaning every thrown that traveled more than 10 yards past the line of scrimmage. "And we liked what we saw. He's got enough arm to win in this league; there's no doubt in my mind. He can throw the 20-yard comeback from the opposite hashmark and hit his target. And he knows when to take a shot and when not to.''

That's a shot Dorsey and Reid have taken, and I think they'll be rewarded for it.

Hammock Parties · 03-20-2013, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhater58

You may be THE most negative person that I have ever come across in my 44 years on this planet (earth, not Chiefs). You don't seem to like anything this team does.

No, I just don't like Alex Smith or Sean Smith.

It's being blown out of proportion by people who insist on defending EVERY MOVE Dorsey and Reid make this offseason as SOLID GOLD.

They have made at least one mistake and my gut tells me it's one of these guys.

DTLB58 · 03-20-2013, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

No, I just don't like Alex Smith or Sean Smith.

It's being blown out of proportion by people who insist on defending EVERY MOVE Dorsey and Reid make this offseason as SOLID GOLD.

They have made at least one mistake and my gut tells me it's one of these guys.

I think you are just gun shy by what happened with Pioli.
A lot of us put all of our trust in everything he did and he failed us miserably. So it's understandable for some fans, now, to take a wait and see approach with the regime, especially at QB.

But if you are going to be a fan of this team why hate, be negative, spew crap and be miserable all the time? Don't be such a downer and try and bring everyone down with you.

DTLB58 · 03-20-2013, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie

Chiefs fans bought Cassel jerseys. Meditate.
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Not me.

HMc · 03-20-2013, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

If by wasn't horrible you mean he didn't shoot Belcher in the parking lot himself, I agree. As for on the field, he blew giant donkey balls. When he wasn't injured, he was fumbling at the goal line or gaining 1 yard on 3rd and 2.

**bevischief** · 03-20-2013, 06:38 AM

The butthurt is strong in this thread...

milkman · 03-20-2013, 08:09 AM

That article posted by Marcellus in post #16 is pure unadulterated garbage.

Had Pioli signed Carr to an extension in roughly the same timeframe that he Flowers deal done, it's highly unlikely the deal would have been for the same numbers that Carr got from the Cowboys.

The Chiefs cap space was a pruduct of the combination of the complete blowup if the roster from the Carl-Herman ****ing Edwards era and the sorry sacks. Tat Pioli signed in free agency.

This team's core still remains the players that Kuharich drafted.

At the end of the day, the only way Pioli could have ****ed this team any more is if he had traded away draft picks for a pair of Bill Bellichicks dirty underwear.

**RealSNR** · 03-20-2013, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie

Chiefs fans bought Cassel jerseys. Meditate.
Posted via Mobile Device

I bought a Cassel jersey.

Sad, but true.

milkman · 03-20-2013, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

I love how King basically nit-picks every move the Chiefs have made.

The Chiefs have had a hell of an off season and we have not had the draft yet. I don't like the price we paid from Alex Smith, but oh well. Peter King can fu@k off as far as I'm concerned.

I've often wondered how a man can have so many contacts in the league, have so much access to information, and have so little knowledge about the game.

But I don't see this as nitpicking.

**SAUTO** · 03-20-2013, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapist

I bought a Cassel jersey.

Sad, but true.

Me too lol.

Funny thing was sometime in 2011 the name patch stitching started coming off the back
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milkman · 03-20-2013, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapist

I bought a Cassel jersey.

Sad, but true.

Through all the years that I have been a fan, I have never purchased a T-shirt, a sweater, a ball cap, or jersey.

However, people who don't really know what else to buy as gifts have bought them for me.

I have numerous articles of each.

Among those are an custom Willie Lanier jersey, a Deron Cherry jersey, a Priest Holmes jersey, and a couple of others.

Thankfully, a Matt Cassel jersey is not among them.

Chiefshrink · 03-20-2013, 08:32 AM

After reading this I'm convinced King and ***** are lovers. This is nothing but a 'puff piece love letter' to ***** from King.

Chiefshrink · 03-20-2013, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapist

I bought a Cassel jersey.

Sad, but true.

I'm impressed you would admit this

Chiefshrink · 03-20-2013, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Through all the years that I have been a fan, I have never purchased a T-shirt, a sweater, a ball cap, or jersey.

However, people who don't really know what else to buy as gifts have bought them for me.

I have numerous articles of each.

Among those are an custom Willie Lanier jersey, a Deron Cherry jersey, a Priest Holmes jersey, and a couple of others.

Thankfully, a Matt Cassel jersey is not among them.

Look out Milk ! You may have just awakened a giant of all those CPers who have Casshole jerseys(like Rapist) who will send you their Casshole jerseys just for "sh*** and giggles"

Marcellus · 03-20-2013, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

That article posted by Marcellus in post #16 is pure unadulterated garbage.

Had ***** signed Carr to an extension in roughly the same timeframe that he Flowers deal done, it's highly unlikely the deal would have been for the same numbers that Carr got from the Cowboys.

The Chiefs cap space was a pruduct of the combination of the complete blowup if the roster from the Carl-Herman ****ing Edwards era and the sorry sacks. Tat ***** signed in free agency.

This team's core still remains the players that Kuharich drafted.

At the end of the day, the only way ***** could have ****ed this team any more is if he had traded away draft picks for a pair of Bill Bellichicks dirty underwear.

It was ridiculous wasn't it? Anything that was a positive because of a move Pioli made was strictly a byproduct of luck.

milkman · 03-20-2013, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

It was ridiculous wasn't it? Anything that was a positive because of a move ***** made was strictly a byproduct of luck.

At the end of the day, I believe that Pioli went about building the roster in the right way philosophically.
He simply made bad choices.

I also believe that if Dorsey and Reid don't do a good job in the next 2 or 3 drafts that this offseason could blow up in their faces.

Overall, I like the guys that they brought in via free agency, but they are, or should be, caretakers who should be replaced with better talent through the draft over the next 2 or 3 drafts.

If they fail in those drafts, this could end up looking a lot like the Dolphins '09 offseason.

03-19-2013, 02:50 PM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3914454	Peter King: John Dorsey, a rookie who doesnt have time to be a rookie http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...1_a6&eref=sihp John Dorsey: A rookie who doesn't have time to be a rookie. "You see the bottom drop out of the market, and you react." It wasn't the trade for Alex Smith, which seemed easy even though the pricetag (a second-round pick this year, and another high pick next year) was high, or the signing of backup quarterback Chase Daniel to give the Chiefs good quarterbacks at first- and second-string. Nor was it the decision to sign Dwayne Bowe to franchise receiver money, or to franchise left tackle Branden Albert. It was stretching to get 6-foot-3 cornerback Sean Smith from Miami, when the cornerback market was crashing and Dorsey didn't have much time to decide what was right or wrong. "We had decided we were going to address free agency, but in a frugal way, after we signed our own guys,'' Dorsey said. "One of the things I've learned is it's not smart to go what I call the JUCO route, taking players who might be only short-term fits. We want to take guys at reasonable prices who can be core players. When the corner market changed, we really had to go after Sean.'' To clinch the deal, Dorsey paid $7.5 million in year one, which means Smith won't be a one-year fix; he'll be a relative bargain at $3.5 million in year two. I like the fact that both Reid and Dorsey think Alex Smith throws the ball well enough downfield to commit to him. He doesn't have a top-10 arm in the league, nor a top-15. But he's certainly good enough. "We looked at every plus-10 throw he made in the last two years with the Niners,'' said Dorsey, meaning every thrown that traveled more than 10 yards past the line of scrimmage. "And we liked what we saw. He's got enough arm to win in this league; there's no doubt in my mind. He can throw the 20-yard comeback from the opposite hashmark and hit his target. And he knows when to take a shot and when not to.'' That's a shot Dorsey and Reid have taken, and I think they'll be rewarded for it.
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milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	That article posted by Marcellus in post #16 is pure unadulterated garbage. Had Pioli signed Carr to an extension in roughly the same timeframe that he Flowers deal done, it's highly unlikely the deal would have been for the same numbers that Carr got from the Cowboys. The Chiefs cap space was a pruduct of the combination of the complete blowup if the roster from the Carl-Herman **ing Edwards era and the sorry sacks. Tat Pioli signed in free agency. This team's core still remains the players that Kuharich drafted. At the end of the day, the only way Pioli could have **ed this team any more is if he had traded away draft picks for a pair of Bill Bellichicks dirty underwear. __________________
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