Restating the obvious, Dorsey learned from Ted Thompson

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/03/packers-prefer-compensatory-picks-over-unrestricted-free-agents/


Packers General Manager Ted Thompson has a formula for building his team, and he’s sticking with it.

Thompson believes in building through the draft, not free agency, and that includes acquiring more draft picks by declining to sign unrestricted free agents. In the NFL, teams that lose more in free agency than they acquire get compensatory picks, and the Packers’ moves in free agency this year indicate that they’re already thinking about acquiring compensatory picks for next year. The NFL doesn’t public the precise formula used to determine compensatory picks, but the simple version is that if the unrestricted free agents you lose are better, higher-paid players than the unrestricted free agents you sign, then the NFL will compensate you the following year with compensatory picks.

As the Green Bay Press-Gazette points out, even the one big name the Packers have signed this offseason, Julius Peppers, was a free agent because he was released by the Bears, not because his previous contract expired. That means he won’t count as an unrestricted free agent addition for the Packers for the purpose of determining their compensatory picks next year.

Last year the Packers lost two key players, receiver Greg Jennings and linebacker Erik Walden, as unrestricted free agents. And the Packers didn’t sign any unrestricted free agents last year. As a result, this year they’re getting an extra third-round pick and an extra fifth-round pick as compensatory selections.

This year the Packers have again not signed away any players whose previous contract expired, but they have lost four players, center Evan Dietrich-Smith, receiver James Jones, defensive lineman C.J. Wilson and offensive lineman Marshall Newhouse. That means the Packers will almost certainly do well when the compensatory picks are passed out a year from now.

Building through the draft and declining to overspend in free agency would be a smart strategy even if the NFL didn’t have a compensatory pick system to reward frugal teams. But when compensatory picks are added to the equation, it’s easy to see why Thompson declines to go after free agents. The Packers have been successful this way. It’s surprising more teams haven’t copied them.


May not be popular here but Dorsey is doing exactly the same thing Thompson and Ozzie Newsome are doing, stockpile draft picks and let UFAs get overpaid elsewhere.

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

He needs to get Carl's leather jacket. Then wear it with the collar up :thump:

[temper11]

Originally Posted by rico

Yeah, when I read the OP, my first thought was, "well then, what the **** happened to our 2nd round pick this year that would come in friggy-diggy-freaking handy???"

Then I started crying again.

It would come in handy, but then you'd have Geno Smith under center.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by temper11

It would come in handy, but then you'd have Geno Smith under center.

He never said that.

The Alex lovers' insecurity surrounding Geno Smith is hilarious.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

He never said that.

The Alex lovers' insecurity surrounding Geno Smith is hilarious.

The irony in the end is that we really are talking about the potential difference between Alex Smith on one hand, and Geno Smith plus a bottom of the 2nd round DB/WR/whatever on the other.

So they have a lot more invested in Geno Smith's failure than any of the rest of us have in his success at this point. They really need him to flop, in a sense, to justify the trade.

(And maybe he will, who knows).

[temper11]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

He never said that.

The Alex lovers' insecurity surrounding Geno Smith is hilarious.

That's true... he never said that... I was just stating that yes you'd have a second round pick but who knows what you'd have as a QB. I don't have insecurity about Geno. I actually thought he played pretty good football last year. But I don't have the expectations for 1st round rookies that most people have. I generally tend to think of them as great prospects if afforded the right opportunity. Geno will be better off this year if Sanchez starts in front of him and he has an opportunity to learn.

My point is only... Would the 2nd last year and the 2nd this year equal a better team than Smith and no second this year? In my opinion, probably not. Even if Smith doesn't get win you the superbowl, you'll be way better off drafting his replacement and then letting that replacement learn under smith for a few years instead of throwing him to the wolves. Sign Smith for a few years and do what you can with the players that you have, draft his replacement when you find a guy you like and he falls to you in the draft, and then let him mature like Green bay did with Rodgers.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by temper11

Geno will be better off this year if Sanchez starts in front of him and he has an opportunity to learn.

Wasn't Sanchez cut?

[Iconic]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

He wasn't ever a GM.

You're moving goal posts here; his tree is a strong enough indicator of his ideologies... If every GM was hired based on past GM experiences there would be no GM's.

[Titty Meat]

I wonder if the same dumbasses were saying the same stupid shit the 2nd year of pioli

[Iconic]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog

I wonder if the same dumbasses were saying the same stupid shit the 2nd year of pioli

You're right. Let's run Dorsey out of town and blow this shit up after we just went to the playoffs in his first year.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Wasn't Sanchez cut?

woops... I meant Vick. Ouch. Not sure I want Geno mentoring from Vick. Geno might be screwed. Still it's better than starting him right out of the gate.

[RealSNR]

What Dorsey says: "The Chiefs will build through the draft"

What Dorsey's results say: "The Chiefs will build through dumpster diving and rummage sales"

[Messier]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

The irony in the end is that we really are talking about the potential difference between Alex Smith on one hand, and Geno Smith plus a bottom of the 2nd round DB/WR/whatever on the other.

So they have a lot more invested in Geno Smith's failure than any of the rest of us have in his success at this point. They really need him to flop, in a sense, to justify the trade.

(And maybe he will, who knows).

No, they just need Alex to be better.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Messier

No, they just need Alex to be better.

It's not just them. We all need Alex Smith to be better, because at the end of the day he's who we're stuck with.

Although, frankly, Geno Smith is a non-issue. The reality is that we only need to measure Alex Smith against himself. And by the time he's done here, we need him to have been better than he's ever been to this point...

In any case, as Parker mentioned, it's funny how the people who seem to have the hardest time letting go of Geno are the Alex fans.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by temper11

The benched QB was one of the highest rated QB's in the league at the time of his injury. It's not like he gave up the picks for a perennial clip board holder.

No....they gave up $10 million for the clip board holder.

[Deberg_1990]

CP has an insane obsession with sh*tty QBs....

Clausen, Sanchez, Geno Smith

The Three Amigos....