Restating the obvious, Dorsey learned from Ted Thompson

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/03/packers-prefer-compensatory-picks-over-unrestricted-free-agents/


Packers General Manager Ted Thompson has a formula for building his team, and he’s sticking with it.

Thompson believes in building through the draft, not free agency, and that includes acquiring more draft picks by declining to sign unrestricted free agents. In the NFL, teams that lose more in free agency than they acquire get compensatory picks, and the Packers’ moves in free agency this year indicate that they’re already thinking about acquiring compensatory picks for next year. The NFL doesn’t public the precise formula used to determine compensatory picks, but the simple version is that if the unrestricted free agents you lose are better, higher-paid players than the unrestricted free agents you sign, then the NFL will compensate you the following year with compensatory picks.

As the Green Bay Press-Gazette points out, even the one big name the Packers have signed this offseason, Julius Peppers, was a free agent because he was released by the Bears, not because his previous contract expired. That means he won’t count as an unrestricted free agent addition for the Packers for the purpose of determining their compensatory picks next year.

Last year the Packers lost two key players, receiver Greg Jennings and linebacker Erik Walden, as unrestricted free agents. And the Packers didn’t sign any unrestricted free agents last year. As a result, this year they’re getting an extra third-round pick and an extra fifth-round pick as compensatory selections.

This year the Packers have again not signed away any players whose previous contract expired, but they have lost four players, center Evan Dietrich-Smith, receiver James Jones, defensive lineman C.J. Wilson and offensive lineman Marshall Newhouse. That means the Packers will almost certainly do well when the compensatory picks are passed out a year from now.

Building through the draft and declining to overspend in free agency would be a smart strategy even if the NFL didn’t have a compensatory pick system to reward frugal teams. But when compensatory picks are added to the equation, it’s easy to see why Thompson declines to go after free agents. The Packers have been successful this way. It’s surprising more teams haven’t copied them.


May not be popular here but Dorsey is doing exactly the same thing Thompson and Ozzie Newsome are doing, stockpile draft picks and let UFAs get overpaid elsewhere.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

CP has an insane obsession with sh*tty QBs....

Clausen, Sanchez, Geno Smith

The Three Amigos....

CP GM's would've been fired many times over.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

CP has an insane obsession with sh*tty QBs....

Clausen, Sanchez, Geno Smith

The Three Amigos....

Sanchez would have been a better pick than Jackson.

Clausen would have been a better pick than McCluster or Arenas.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

In any case, as Parker mentioned, it's funny how the people who seem to have the hardest time letting go of Geno are the Alex fans.

If this was referring to my post, for the record I'd like to say that I don't care about Geno and wish I hadn't named him specifically in my post. I did so only to illustrate that it isn't "Alex or 2 picks"... It's "Alex or (enter unnamed drafted QB here) and 1 pick". That "unnamed drafted QB" is universally assumed to be Geno. That's the only reason I named him.

I hope the kid (Geno) does well for no other reason than I think fans have unrealistic expectations of these kids right out of college. If a kid underperforms fans should direct more of their rage at the GM for either a poor selection, or not sitting the kid underneath an experienced QB for a season or two to get acclimated.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Sanchez would have been a better pick than Jackson.

Clausen would have been a better pick than McCluster or Arenas.

Maybe, and nope.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Sanchez would have been a better pick than Jackson.

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Clausen would have been a better pick than McCluster or Arenas.

You need to lay off the drugs.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by temper11

If this was referring to my post, for the record I'd like to say that I don't care about Geno and wish I hadn't named him specifically in my post. I hope the kid does well for no other reason than I think fans have unrealistic expectations of these kids right out of college. If a kid underperforms fans should direct more of their rage at the GM for either a poor selection, or not sitting the kid underneath an experienced QB for a season or two to get acclimated.

I wasn't referring to yours or any other post in particular. It's just something that happened a lot last year. We'd be talking about the Chiefs or Alex, the Jets nowhere in the discussion, and inevitably somebody would bring up Geno. Usually after a bad play or a bad game.

That's the internet, though. If Alex bombs and Geno goes to the pro bowl, I'm sure guys who wanted to draft him would be all over that, too.

Personally, we got who we got, so I don't pay attention to Geno any more. What's the point? Not like anybody in the front office gets a do-over.

[saphojunkie]

I find it frustrating that CP at large finds it unfathomable that we passed on a QB last year because the front office didn't think any of them were any good and not because it was deemed "too risky."

What doubles my frustration is when, in the same breath, these CP posters will also complain that two second round picks were traded for a QB who is under 30 and has shown the ability to produce at a high level in the playoffs.

So...

first overall QB - impossible to be too risky.

two second round picks - so risky that it is infuriating.

Doesn't anyone else find these to be incongruent lines of thinking?

[temper11]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I wasn't referring to yours or any other post in particular. It's just something that happened a lot last year. We'd be talking about the Chiefs or Alex, the Jets nowhere in the discussion, and inevitably somebody would bring up Geno. Usually after a bad play or a bad game.

That's the internet, though. If Alex bombs and Geno goes to the pro bowl, I'm sure guys who wanted to draft him would be all over that, too.

Personally, we got who we got, so I don't pay attention to Geno any more. What's the point? Not like anybody in the front office gets a do-over.

agreed.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by BCD

It was one trade. You're acting like he's made several trades.

They needed a QB. What would you have them do? I'm all for taking a QB in the first, but right now, last yrs QB class looks like ass.

So much THIS.

Considering how bad every rookie QB was, those 2 picks for Smith are looking better and better.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

I find it frustrating that CP at large finds it unfathomable that we passed on a QB last year because the front office didn't think any of them were any good and not because it was deemed "too risky."

Some of us were frustrated because we didn't believe the front office even considered any quarterback other than Alex Smith last year. I've even gone so far as to suggest that the decision was made in early January, and that there's even a remote possibility that Reid's hire may have been somehow contingent upon the Smith trade. It's been interesting to me sometimes how much more of a Smith fan Reid seems to be in interviews than does Dorsey.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I'm not crying at all. There's absolutely zero emotion in this for me. So every time you bring it up I laugh at how stupid it is.

And it's NOT ABOUT WHAT QB they should have brought in.

It's about what they should be doing to help make Alex Smith a successful QB.

You don't understand the argument at all, and it's obvious.

Without those two seconds we don't GET Alex Smith and have to settle on some rookie in a bad class of rookies... you gotta have someone WORTH surrounding with talent before you can start doing it.

[ChiefGator]

Originally Posted by scott free

So much THIS.

Considering how bad every rookie QB was, those 2 picks for Smith are looking better and better.

Yep. And good luck getting free agents to come here with Matt Cassel throwing the ball to them.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Sanchez would have been a better pick than Jackson.

Clausen would have been a better pick than McCluster or Arenas.

DMC and Arenas still play NFL football.

Clausen is an unsigned ex 3rd string QB.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

DMC and Arenas still play NFL football.

Clausen is an unsigned ex 3rd string QB.

Clausen got 1 ****ing year on a shitty Panthers team before they drafted Newton. Then they ****ing held onto him and did dick with him.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Clausen got 1 ****ing year on a shitty Panthers team before they drafted Newton. Then they ****ing held onto him and did dick with him.

That explains why he is basically out of football 4 years into his career.