Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 160

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

O.city · 12-05-2018, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Think they'll both be sat out this Ravens game and both will play the chargers on Thursday night. Doubt they want to bring them back for them to play 2 games in 5 days
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I would imagine they'd like to do that, but damn man, every game here on out is pretty much a must win to secure the 1 seed.

MVChiefFan · 12-05-2018, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Think they'll both be sat out this Ravens game and both will play the chargers on Thursday night. Doubt they want to bring them back for them to play 2 games in 5 days
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This makes sense, I could see it happening. But, it would be nice to see them get some limited reps in the Ravens game.

**jjchieffan** · 12-05-2018, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8

This. There were 3 instances sunday where a competent safety in Murray's spot could have saved a first down.

FYP

**Iowanian** · 12-05-2018, 09:38 AM

A leak from medical staff has revealed that the source of Berry's mysterious limp is not from the Haglund deformity after all. Doctors and Physcial therapy staff have revealed that Berry's limp is in fact due to sitting on his huge Castanza wallet, full of unearned millions over the past 2 seasons. Doctors feel they have solved the mystery as to why he is day-to-day and always has a relapse of discomfort on fridays...payday. Team officials secretly hope that by converting his cash to larger bills and having Berry begin to carry his "Bad MF" wallet in his FRONT pocket will allow him to get back on the field soon.

Marcellus · 12-05-2018, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I would imagine they'd like to do that, but damn man, every game here on out is pretty much a must win to secure the 1 seed.

At some point the players gotta play. If game film of the Oakland game doesn't motivate them to get Berry out there, I'm not sure what will.

O.city · 12-05-2018, 10:14 AM

Eric Berry and Justin Houston organized an event on Tuesday that provided local moms with makeovers courtesy of Amethyst Place, whose mission is to assist families in transition.

It was part of the Chiefs’ social justice program, which focuses on causes important to the players. pic.twitter.com/cVu94BbpA5
— Matt McMullen (@KCChiefs_Matt) December 5, 2018

Maybe have Berry get a makeover to lose the "homeless" persona? LOL.

ModSocks · 12-05-2018, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Eric Berry and Justin Houston organized an event on Tuesday that provided local moms with makeovers courtesy of Amethyst Place, whose mission is to assist families in transition.

It was part of the Chiefs’ social justice program, which focuses on causes important to the players. pic.twitter.com/cVu94BbpA5
— Matt McMullen (@KCChiefs_Matt) December 5, 2018

Maybe have Berry get a makeover to lose the "homeless" persona? LOL.

That jacket Berry has on is dope.

In58men · 12-05-2018, 10:30 AM

Does anyone know what time the press conference starts?

**TribalElder** · 12-05-2018, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by In58men

Does anyone know what time the press conference starts?

press conf is day to day

In58men · 12-05-2018, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder

press conf is day to day

Patrick MaGoat

Gravedigger · 12-05-2018, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder

press conf is day to day

LITERALLY?

OKchiefs · 12-05-2018, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by In58men

Does anyone know what time the press conference starts?

Usually at 11:40 every day, tweets start coming out around 11:50 or so.

OKchiefs · 12-05-2018, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Eric Berry and Justin Houston organized an event on Tuesday that provided local moms with makeovers courtesy of Amethyst Place, whose mission is to assist families in transition.

It was part of the Chiefs’ social justice program, which focuses on causes important to the players. pic.twitter.com/cVu94BbpA5
— Matt McMullen (@KCChiefs_Matt) December 5, 2018

Maybe have Berry get a makeover to lose the "homeless" persona? LOL.

Lord knows the two of them have enough money to help out in the community, and both have had enough down time to devote to giving.

ModSocks · 12-05-2018, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Lord knows the two of them have enough money to help out in the community, and both have had enough down time to devote to giving.

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**Iowanian** · 12-05-2018, 11:10 AM

In Biblical times, the Messiah was known to spit in his fingers with some dirt and rub mud in the eyes of the blind and brought them sight.

I'll bet if Mahomes would piss on Berry's heel, it would be healed.

09-29-2018, 01:06 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $1996899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level. Last edited by DaFace; 09-29-2018 at 04:32 PM..
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