Rap Sheet: Talks With Alex Smith Not Progressing Well

[CaliforniaChief]

Team that will consider a 1st-round QB: The #Chiefs. Negotiations with Alex Smith aren’t progressing well. Must keep long-term options open

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) May 5, 2014

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

I'd take 2 1st round picks for Houston in a heartbeat.

**** YA!

That's 2 picks for Dorsey to try and replace him with!

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by jd1020

**** YA!

That's 2 picks for Dorsey to try and replace him with!

[O.city]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

I'd take 2 1st round picks for Houston in a heartbeat.

He's a rare pass rushing talent, who's young and is only going to get better. THis time next year, he could be the best defensive player in the AFC. He's that talented.

I'm not letting that walk.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

46% completion and converting something like 17% on 3rd down isn't playing well enough in any game.

Sure it is.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

People want to blame Williams solely, while ignoring the fact that if the guy who plays the most important position in the sport doesn't play so poorly, Williams may not have even been in that position. The defense carried him all day, and Smith gets none of the blame. Amazing.

If you weren't insane when it comes to QBs, you'd be a solid poster. Williams fumbled in OT, because he brain locked, and he did it at a spot on the field where the Giants were well within field goal range once they recovered it. He had previously coughed up the football at the SF 29, on a muffed catch, which means that the Giants were already in FG range when they recovered that one, too.

Yes, Williams gets the blame. He gets it because he deserves it.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

I'd take 2 1st round picks for Houston in a heartbeat.

At least then we'd have our next RT of the future and more depth at OLB...

[l4z4rd]

Originally Posted by jd1020

16 21 76.19% 233 1 0 127.7 11.10 12.05
12 26 46.15% 196 2 0 97.6 7.54 9.08

One is Smith, the other is Kaepernick in their NFCC games.

6 GP 94-162 58% 1,374 yds 7 TDs 5 INT 507 yds rush 4 TD 4 FUM 1 Lost
3 GP 66-114 57.9% 873 yds 9 TDs 0 INT 127 yds rush 1 TD 3 FUM 2 Lost

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Sure it is.



If you weren't insane when it comes to QBs, you'd be a solid poster. Williams fumbled in OT, because he brain locked, and he did it at a spot on the field where the Giants were well within field goal range once they recovered it. He had previously coughed up the football at the SF 29, on a muffed catch, which means that the Giants were already in FG range when they recovered that one, too.

Yes, Williams gets the blame. He gets it because he deserves it.

Yep, I'm insane.

Because I think a guy who completed 46% of his passes and was something like 3/16 on 3rd down didn't play well enough. I'm not sure how the bar could be set any lower.

This place never ceases to amaze. Roethlisberger, Eli and Flacco? No credit. Carried by their defenses.

Instead, let's give credit to the guy who did even less for his team, and blame someone else solely for the loss.

The CP Way.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Oh well.

Your best chance to win multiple SBs is with a first round QB. Always has, always will be.

Well, good thing Smith is a 1st rd QB then, eh? AND is already been through the awful progression of shit personnel and coaching.. So he is now all the better for it.

Originally Posted by milkman

Just accept the fact that we will overpay for Smith and move on.

It's the Chiefs.

It's what we do.

Would just give all the people that want to hate him but were starting to like him now go back to their natural position of hating him. The world can go back to its perfect balance.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

46% completion and converting something like 17% on 3rd down isn't playing well enough in any game.

People want to blame Williams solely, while ignoring the fact that if the guy who plays the most important position in the sport doesn't play so poorly, Williams may not have even been in that position. The defense carried him all day, and Smith gets none of the blame. Amazing.

Your and idiot... for multiple reasons. (1) bringing this game back up yet again as if one game just defines a player. (2) Alex had terrible receivers to throw to, and even Crabtree seemed embarrassed that he couldn't get open when keyed upon. Smith threw two TDs and SF was on their way to winning, had Kyle W not shit all over himself. Eli and all his weapons couldn't do much either. (3) you just fukking suck dick.. as a person and supposed fan. DIAF


I don't want to see Smith bend KC over for 18 mil per year... and I still don't think he will or wants to. If KC can lock him up with 15 mil per and pretty well guaranteed he's their starter for the next 2 seasons? Maybe add some hard to reach incentives to that 15? then great...

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Well, good thing Smith is a 1st rd QB then, eh? AND is already been through the awful progression of shit personnel and coaching.. So he is now all the better for it.



Would just give all the people that want to hate him but were starting to like him now go back to their natural position of hating him. The world can go back to its perfect balance.



Your and idiot... for multiple reasons. (1) bringing this game back up yet again as if one game just defines a player. (2) Alex had terrible receivers to throw to, and even Crabtree seemed embarrassed that he couldn't get open when keyed upon. Smith threw two TDs and SF was on their way to winning, had Kyle W not shit all over himself. Eli and all his weapons couldn't do much either. (3) you just fukking suck dick.. as a person and supposed fan. DIAF


I don't want to see Smith bend KC over for 18 mil per year... and I still don't think he will or wants to. If KC can lock him up with 15 mil per and pretty well guaranteed he's their starter for the next 2 seasons? Maybe add some hard to reach incentives to that 15? then great...

One, I didn't bring up the game. Someone else did.

Two, save the ****ing excuses. We've heard them all before. They don't fly for other QB's around the league when they are discussed here, so enough of the double standard bullshit.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Sure it is.

You are one ****ed up dumbass.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Yep, I'm insane.

Because I think a guy who completed 46% of his passes and was something like 3/16 on 3rd down didn't play well enough. I'm not sure how the bar could be set any lower.

This place never ceases to amaze. Roethlisberger, Eli and Flacco? No credit. Carried by their defenses.

Instead, let's give credit to the guy who did even less for his team, and blame someone else solely for the loss.

The CP Way.

No, you're insane because you argue the same bullshit about QBs over and over, despite having been demonstrably wrong. Trying to distract from that by minimizing just how much Williams did to blow that NFCCG game is just pettiness.


But .... Sanchez/Freeman!

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by O.city

He's a rare pass rushing talent, who's young and is only going to get better. THis time next year, he could be the best defensive player in the AFC. He's that talented.

I'm not letting that walk.

He's only been great against back-up level talent and rookies. He has never faced the best blocker on the opposing team and has always had the benefit of Hali playing opposite of him. Despite this fact, he has never been among the top 10 sack leaders in a season. He's good but isn't the talent that you are making him out to be.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by milkman

You are one ****ed up dumbass.

Take a good look in the mirror. I didn't say that they were good numbers. I disagreed with the idiotic notion that those numbers aren't good enough in any game. Depending on the game, those numbers can be good enough. Had Williams not screwed the pooch, they'd have been good enough in that very game. You're not so stupid that you don't know that, which means that you're just being an asshole for the sake of being one, so feel free to **** off.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

No, you're insane because you argue the same bullshit about QBs over and over, despite having been demonstrably wrong. Trying to distract from that by minimizing just how much Williams did to blow that NFCCG game is just pettiness.


But .... Sanchez/Freeman!

Please, explain how I'm "wrong".

And while you're doing that, please show me where I "minimize" Williams' fumbles and blame Smith solely.

Both played a role.

But one plays the most important position in the sport, while the other is a punt returner. To say Smith played well enough is laughable. Basically, you're saying with that defense, just this side of a corpse would have been good enough.

46% passing and 3/16 on 3rd down doesn't help your team win - it's hanging on for dear life.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Take a good look in the mirror. I didn't say that they were good numbers. I disagreed with the idiotic notion that those numbers aren't good enough in any game. Depending on the game, those numbers can be good enough. Had Williams not screwed the pooch, they'd have been good enough in that very game. You're not so stupid that you don't know that, which means that you're just being an asshole for the sake of being one, so feel free to **** off.

And you ignore the fact that had Alex Smith converted just one third down when it mattered, that Williams might never have been given the chance to be the goat.

1 of 13 on third down conversion attempts, with that single conversion coming as time ran out in the first half.