Royals Guillen: Fans "really getting into my head" - Page 5

**DeezNutz** · 07-29-2008, 08:32 AM

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/roy...ry/724643.html

Royals notebook: Guillen, back in lineup, happy to hit the road
By BOB DUTTON
The Kansas City Star
OAKLAND, Calif. | Outfielder José Guillen returned Monday to the Royals’ lineup after a one-game absence because of an ailing left groin. And it’s best — perhaps — that his return came in a road game.

Guillen acknowledged, again, being irritated by the boos Saturday night at Kauffman Stadium when he failed to make the catch on a high pop to short right field. He said the groin injury, aggravated earlier in the game, prevented him from making the play.

“Some fans got upset,” he said, “and I got upset because they thought I wasn’t trying. I heard all kinds of stuff out there. It bothers me. I should catch that ball, but I was having problems coming in.” The ball fell for a two-out double in a tie game. Tampa Bay went on to score two runs in a 5-3 victory.

“A lot of those fans,” Guillen said, “they’re really getting into my head right now. They don’t know what’s going on. Fans who understand baseball, they know what’s going on. They know I care about winning.”
Guillen’s movement remained limited going into Monday’s series opener against the A’s at McAfee Coliseum.

“He feels a little bit better,” manager Trey Hillman said. “He’s going to try to play defense and hit fourth.”

On cue, Guillen hit the first pitch he saw Monday from Oakland starter Dallas Braden for a two-run homer in the first inning. It was Guillen’s first homer since June 23 but boosted his club-leading totals to 14 homers and 69 RBIs.

“I feel much better playing away from home,” he said. “I’m serious. I’m dead serious. Look at my numbers at home and my numbers on the road. What does that tell you?”

There is a disparity:

Guillen is batting .254 in 49 home games with five homers and 25 RBIs. He entered Monday with a .265 average in 50 road games with eight homers and 42 RBIs.

“Playing away has been more fun for me,” he said.

“Why? I don’t know, but I’m real happy to be out of there. It’s been more fun for me to play on the road than to play at home. I wish we could go the rest of the season playing away.”

The current trip lasts just two more days.

The Royals return Friday to Kauffman Stadium for a nine-game home stand against the White Sox, Red Sox and Twins.

eazyb81 · 07-29-2008, 01:42 PM

Hmmm, somehow I don't think this will give DM leverage in trade negotiations for Guillen.

SithCeNtZ · 07-29-2008, 01:45 PM

This is still probably the best news for the Royals all season. Guillen is putting up poor numbers and it is unlikely that he is going to improve the next 2 years, so getting out from under his contract would be a huge plus for the Royals going forward. They gambled on Guillen and lost, but at least they didn't lose anything because of it.

SCTrojan · 07-29-2008, 01:47 PM

And then there's this:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3509805

Left fielder Jose Guillen wants out of Kansas City pronto, according to a source who spoke to ESPNdeportes.com on condition of anonymity.

Guillen feels the Royals have not kept the promises made when he signed for three years and $36 million during the offseason, said the source. But the main reason he is in "living hell in Kansas City" is a foul relationship with manager Trey Hillman.

"Guillen and Hillman are not on speaking terms, they don't talk," said the source. "Guillen is definitely not happy, he's not comfortable and he would do anything he can in economic terms to ease his way out of Kansas City."

When Guillen signed with Kansas City he knew the team wouldn't be a contender in 2008, but he was promised that moves would be made to build a winning team in 2009, said the source.

The 32-year-old is leading the Royals with 14 home runs and 69 RBIs, but he has been nursing a groin injury that kept him out of the lineup on Sunday against the Tampa Bay Rays.

Guillen's bat could help a number of teams in the race for the postseason, but Kansas City has not shown any interest in trading him. The source said Guillen is ready to defer his salary for 2009 and 2010 if it helps increase his value on the trading block.

eazyb81 · 07-29-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SithCeNtZ

This is still probably the best news for the Royals all season. Guillen is putting up poor numbers and it is unlikely that he is going to improve the next 2 years, so getting out from under his contract would be a huge plus for the Royals going forward. They gambled on Guillen and lost, but at least they didn't lose anything because of it.

You're ready to say they "lost" the Guillen gamble after half a season? His OPS+ was 116 or higher in 3 of the previous 4 seasons, so I definitely wouldn't agree that this is just the best we can expect for the rest of his contract.

Also, good luck to DM in trying to sign someone like Adam Dunn this offseason if Guillen wants out by any means necessary after half a season with this organization.

Deberg_1990 · 07-29-2008, 01:51 PM

Yeaaaa,

Lets dump Guillen for more Ross Gloads.

Demonpenz · 07-29-2008, 01:53 PM

hmmm Kcroyals.com reports that local fans have volenteered to build him a boat so he can ride out of kansas city on the river of his own tears

KCUnited · 07-29-2008, 01:54 PM

How much of Guillen's injury problems can be attributed to him showing up to spring training fat and out of shape?

That being said, his comments about the fans don't bother me at all. I watch on TV at the fans behind the plate with the best seats and they don't even pay attention to the game.

**Dartgod** · 07-29-2008, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited

How much of Guillen's injury problems can be attributed to him showing up to spring training fat and out of shape?

That being said, his comments about the fans don't bother me at all. I watch on TV at the fans behind the plate with the best seats and they don't even pay attention to the game.

They're all on their cell phones telling their friends and family to look at them on TV.

markk · 07-29-2008, 01:57 PM

i don't have a problem with guillen. i didn't care for the signing, but i dont have a problem with him.

but if he wants out, let's flip him and get some more prospects. i'm all for it.

Kraus · 07-29-2008, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCTrojan

"Guillen and Hillman are not on speaking terms, they don't talk," said the source. "Guillen is definitely not happy, he's not comfortable and he would do anything he can in economic terms to ease his way out of Kansas City."

This is BS. Hillman was talking to and had his arm around Guillen just last night during the game.

eazyb81 · 07-29-2008, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markk

i don't have a problem with guillen. i didn't care for the signing, but i dont have a problem with him.

but if he wants out, let's flip him and get some more prospects. i'm all for it.

The problem is that we've lost all leverage now that this report is out. Every GM will know that we have to trade him and will offer us crap. Plus it doesn't help that he's been horrible at the plate lately.

SithCeNtZ · 07-29-2008, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eazyb81

You're ready to say they "lost" the Guillen gamble after half a season? His OPS+ was 116 or higher in 3 of the previous 4 seasons, so I definitely wouldn't agree that this is just the best we can expect for the rest of his contract.

Also, good luck to DM in trying to sign someone like Adam Dunn this offseason if Guillen wants out by any means necessary after half a season with this organization.

I just look at the fact that he is now off the 'roids and suddenly he can't stay healthy, he is already 32 so he is getting past his prime, and his numbers have dropped. All of those signs point to him not being all that good for the next couple of years. Besides, the gamble I referred to went beyond just pure numbers. There was always a chance he would blow up and not get along with people in KC and that is exactly what has happened. I don't care if his numbers are slumping because he is over the hill or just because he is too busy crying about the most critical media market and fan base in the history of sports, either way he is of no use to us now.

**Reaper16** · 07-29-2008, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCTrojan

And then there's this:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3509805

Left fielder Jose Guillen wants out of Kansas City pronto, according to a source who spoke to ESPNdeportes.com on condition of anonymity.

Guillen feels the Royals have not kept the promises made when he signed for three years and $36 million during the offseason, said the source. But the main reason he is in "living hell in Kansas City" is a foul relationship with manager Trey Hillman.

"Guillen and Hillman are not on speaking terms, they don't talk," said the source. "Guillen is definitely not happy, he's not comfortable and he would do anything he can in economic terms to ease his way out of Kansas City."

When Guillen signed with Kansas City he knew the team wouldn't be a contender in 2008, but he was promised that moves would be made to build a winning team in 2009, said the source.

The 32-year-old is leading the Royals with 14 home runs and 69 RBIs, but he has been nursing a groin injury that kept him out of the lineup on Sunday against the Tampa Bay Rays.

Guillen's bat could help a number of teams in the race for the postseason, but Kansas City has not shown any interest in trading him. The source said Guillen is ready to defer his salary for 2009 and 2010 if it helps increase his value on the trading block.

Just ****ing wonderful.

This, btw, deserves its own thread. Or the title of this thread should be changed to reflect this breaking news.

markk · 07-29-2008, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eazyb81

The problem is that we've lost all leverage now that this report is out. Every GM will know that we have to trade him and will offer us crap. Plus it doesn't help that he's been horrible at the plate lately.

that's not the point, the point is that he's an outfielder with a good arm and a decent bat.

the leverage doesn't come from "we don't have to trade him" (which we still don't), it comes from that there is more than one team who might be interested.

Atlanta, according to ESPN, had already inquired about Guillen

Demonpenz · 07-29-2008, 02:07 PM

send him to the expos

07-29-2008, 08:32 AM
DeezNutz PermaBanned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Jouissance Casino cash: $10011570	Guillen: Fans "really getting into my head" http://www.kansascity.com/sports/roy...ry/724643.html Royals notebook: Guillen, back in lineup, happy to hit the road By BOB DUTTON The Kansas City Star OAKLAND, Calif. \| Outfielder José Guillen returned Monday to the Royals’ lineup after a one-game absence because of an ailing left groin. And it’s best — perhaps — that his return came in a road game. Guillen acknowledged, again, being irritated by the boos Saturday night at Kauffman Stadium when he failed to make the catch on a high pop to short right field. He said the groin injury, aggravated earlier in the game, prevented him from making the play. “Some fans got upset,” he said, “and I got upset because they thought I wasn’t trying. I heard all kinds of stuff out there. It bothers me. I should catch that ball, but I was having problems coming in.” The ball fell for a two-out double in a tie game. Tampa Bay went on to score two runs in a 5-3 victory. “A lot of those fans,” Guillen said, “they’re really getting into my head right now. They don’t know what’s going on. Fans who understand baseball, they know what’s going on. They know I care about winning.” Guillen’s movement remained limited going into Monday’s series opener against the A’s at McAfee Coliseum. “He feels a little bit better,” manager Trey Hillman said. “He’s going to try to play defense and hit fourth.” On cue, Guillen hit the first pitch he saw Monday from Oakland starter Dallas Braden for a two-run homer in the first inning. It was Guillen’s first homer since June 23 but boosted his club-leading totals to 14 homers and 69 RBIs. “I feel much better playing away from home,” he said. “I’m serious. I’m dead serious. Look at my numbers at home and my numbers on the road. What does that tell you?” There is a disparity: Guillen is batting .254 in 49 home games with five homers and 25 RBIs. He entered Monday with a .265 average in 50 road games with eight homers and 42 RBIs. “Playing away has been more fun for me,” he said. “Why? I don’t know, but I’m real happy to be out of there. It’s been more fun for me to play on the road than to play at home. I wish we could go the rest of the season playing away.” The current trip lasts just two more days. The Royals return Friday to Kauffman Stadium for a nine-game home stand against the White Sox, Red Sox and Twins.
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SCTrojan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Across the park Casino cash: $6219719	And then there's this: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3509805 Left fielder Jose Guillen wants out of Kansas City pronto, according to a source who spoke to ESPNdeportes.com on condition of anonymity. Guillen feels the Royals have not kept the promises made when he signed for three years and $36 million during the offseason, said the source. But the main reason he is in "living hell in Kansas City" is a foul relationship with manager Trey Hillman. "Guillen and Hillman are not on speaking terms, they don't talk," said the source. "Guillen is definitely not happy, he's not comfortable and he would do anything he can in economic terms to ease his way out of Kansas City." When Guillen signed with Kansas City he knew the team wouldn't be a contender in 2008, but he was promised that moves would be made to build a winning team in 2009, said the source. The 32-year-old is leading the Royals with 14 home runs and 69 RBIs, but he has been nursing a groin injury that kept him out of the lineup on Sunday against the Tampa Bay Rays. Guillen's bat could help a number of teams in the race for the postseason, but Kansas City has not shown any interest in trading him. The source said Guillen is ready to defer his salary for 2009 and 2010 if it helps increase his value on the trading block.
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