Chiefs Why Manning ruled out KC... - Page 9

**The Bad Guy** · 03-20-2012, 09:29 AM

Apparently, teams were pre-qualified by Manning prior to any visits. When Condon was contacted by the 12 teams, he told them that the contract Manning was starting at was 5 for 90 and going from there.

Teams either had to say in or out at that point.

From there, Manning narrowed his selections.

I was told this from someone yesterday, and then today on Twitter, a great guy to follow, Andrew Brandt commented on it as well. I was leery about what I was told, but this guy confirmed it.

The Chiefs never got past the pre-qualified stage.

Seattle did, but when Manning narrowed his choices, the roster had no appeal.

Just thought I'd post this since we had a lot of discussions about why the Chiefs never got a face to face.

philfree · 03-20-2012, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

Yes. Your OL is dogshit.

They could probably get Richardson on the cheap.

Frazod · 03-20-2012, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

Yes. Your OL is dogshit.

The sad part is now they'll be allowed to blatantly hold on every. single. down.

Hammock Parties · 03-20-2012, 10:49 AM

listopencil · 03-20-2012, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

Yes. Your OL is dogshit.

So...those stats are from Kyle "I'm a statue" Orton and Tim "I can run through a brick wall" Tebow playing the QB position then. They mean nothing.

BigChiefFan · 03-20-2012, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

Yes. Your OL is dogshit.

Just shows Manning as the money-grubber, that he really is. A 36 year old QB coming off of serious injury picking that shit line. This ought to be a fun season.

Codered · 03-20-2012, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod

The sad part is now they'll be allowed to blatantly hold on every. single. down.

True story. I assume that chart will look a lot different with Peyton under center.

listopencil · 03-20-2012, 10:51 AM

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Dammit I wanted to rep you for that but can't because of the shopped pic you made. Gotta spread it around.

ModSocks · 03-20-2012, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

How is he going to throw 30 TD passes with Orlando Franklin trying to block Tamba Hali?

Are you aware of this?

I'm sure that had a lot more to do with Tebow than the line itself.

Hammock Parties · 03-20-2012, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

So...those stats are from Kyle "I'm a statue" Orton and Tim "I can run through a brick wall" Tebow playing the QB position then. They mean nothing.

You do realize that PFF takes that into account, right? They assign blame to quarterbacks for pressures and sacks.

Orlando Franklin got beat, a lot. Had nothing to do with anyone holding the ball too long.

Groves · 03-20-2012, 10:52 AM

Don't you guys have lists of places on this earth where no matter what the $$ is like you'd not go to live and work?

It's kinda like my family's stance on IHOP.

Deberg_1990 · 03-20-2012, 10:53 AM

Its always about the Coin. Always.

Manning pulled this crap with the Colts too. They gave him big coin before he passed a physical in 2011.

As the football-following world processes the news that Colts quarterback Peyton Manning will miss considerable time after undergoing spinal surgery on Thursday, only one thing is clear.

Peyton Manning will get paid a ton of money, even if he doesn’t take a single snap this year.

Per a league source, that new five-year, $90 million contract was given to Manning without the quarterback having to pass a physical. In other words, he got $20 million to sign, and the Colts didn’t insist on obtaining medical clearance that he can play before giving it to him. (He eventually passed a physical before being cleared to practice last week — before suffering the setback that caused the latest procedure.)

With the Colts choosing to keep Manning on the active roster, he’ll also pocket his $3.4 million base salary for the new season, along with a $3 million roster bonus tied to Manning being on the 53-man roster for any one game in 2011.

The next question, if Manning can’t play in 2011, becomes whether the Colts would pay him a $28 million option bonus, which is due early in the next league year. The Colts can avoid the payment only by cutting or trading Manning, and it would be shocking — actually, beyond shocking — if the team would sever ties with one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time.

So why did the Colts sign Manning to this deal in the first place? Peter King of NBC and Sports Illustrated explained during the debut of NBC SportsTalk that the Colts had no concerns about the most recent surgery at the time it was conducted in May 2011, and that team Vice Chairman Bill Polian said on the day of the prior procedure that it would not impact the contract talks.

If the Colts knew then what they know now, it’s hard not to believe that they would have at most kept Manning under the franchise tag in 2011, waiting until 2012 to sign him to a long-term contract.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ss-a-physical/

listopencil · 03-20-2012, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

You do realize that PFF takes that into account, right? They assign blame to quarterbacks for pressures and sacks.

Orlando Franklin got beat, a lot. Had nothing to do with anyone holding the ball too long.

You do realize that when a QB runs and is tackled behind the LOS it counts as a sack, right?

listopencil · 03-20-2012, 10:55 AM

Not to mention "hits allowed".

Okie_Apparition · 03-20-2012, 10:57 AM

& Polian was fired

Hammock Parties · 03-20-2012, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

You do realize that when a QB runs and is tackled behind the LOS it counts as a sack, right?

Doesn't matter. If an OL gets beat, he gets penalized for it. If your OL are getting beat a lot in pass protection, they end up at the bottom of that list. Regardless of who your QB is and how he responds to pressure. That's why the Giants are at the bottom despite Eli being awesome.

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Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3914454	Its always about the Coin. Always. Manning pulled this crap with the Colts too. They gave him big coin before he passed a physical in 2011. As the football-following world processes the news that Colts quarterback Peyton Manning will miss considerable time after undergoing spinal surgery on Thursday, only one thing is clear. Peyton Manning will get paid a ton of money, even if he doesn’t take a single snap this year. Per a league source, that new five-year, $90 million contract was given to Manning without the quarterback having to pass a physical. In other words, he got $20 million to sign, and the Colts didn’t insist on obtaining medical clearance that he can play before giving it to him. (He eventually passed a physical before being cleared to practice last week — before suffering the setback that caused the latest procedure.) With the Colts choosing to keep Manning on the active roster, he’ll also pocket his $3.4 million base salary for the new season, along with a $3 million roster bonus tied to Manning being on the 53-man roster for any one game in 2011. The next question, if Manning can’t play in 2011, becomes whether the Colts would pay him a $28 million option bonus, which is due early in the next league year. The Colts can avoid the payment only by cutting or trading Manning, and it would be shocking — actually, beyond shocking — if the team would sever ties with one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. So why did the Colts sign Manning to this deal in the first place? Peter King of NBC and Sports Illustrated explained during the debut of NBC SportsTalk that the Colts had no concerns about the most recent surgery at the time it was conducted in May 2011, and that team Vice Chairman Bill Polian said on the day of the prior procedure that it would not impact the contract talks. If the Colts knew then what they know now, it’s hard not to believe that they would have at most kept Manning under the franchise tag in 2011, waiting until 2012 to sign him to a long-term contract. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ss-a-physical/ __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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