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Old 02-27-2013, 10:59 AM  
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Alex Smith Traded to Chiefs

Well, it looks like the deal is done.



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49ers have completed a trade with the Chiefs for Alex Smith, tho can't be official til March 12. Chiefs really made a commitment to Smith


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Deal has been agreed upon between Chiefs and 49ers. Compensation unclear but I'm told again Chiefs have made a clear commitment to Smith.
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:12 PM   #2911
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My concern is the grey area where he plays just well enough but most of us feel it's not going to take the next step. I don't know how Reid or Dorsey will react to that situation, but I am really worried about it, whether that's fair to them or not.
I agree with your point. Too much to give up for someone who has done less with more natural ability than the QB we have. I don't care about being fair and I don't buy the trust them argument. Been there done that. 1 for 14 on 3rd down in an AFC Championship game is worse than........(insert Chiefs playoff QB here).

It's a short term fix but they are spending future capital. I don't like the trade.
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:13 PM   #2912
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What did the cardinals give up for Kolb?
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:14 PM   #2913
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What did the cardinals give up for Kolb?
Dominique Rogers Cromartie and second round pick.
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:14 PM   #2914
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What did the cardinals give up for Kolb?
2nd and DRC I believe.
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:20 PM   #2915
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Actually, it's $8.5 million, which is $11.5 million less than what Joe Flacco will receive in 2013 and beyond.
its 8.5 million for the 1st two......it will only go up from there, so actually if he is here year 3 it will be significantly more than 9 million per year (average). I was being conservative.

Flacco just won a ring and has brought his team to the playoffs EVERY SINGLE SEASON, including his rookie.

surely youre not saying a.smith = flacco? right?
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:22 PM   #2916
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All this talk about 2 2nd rounders is hilarious. If you guys knew that you would have to give up a second second rounder to get alex smith, that means that you probably made the playoffs. Wouldnt that be WORTH two second rounders?
making the playoffs , no...we did that for one second rounder in 2010....

winning a playoff game, sure...why not
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:25 PM   #2917
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The same way the 49ers did. Draft one later......Im sure andy reid has his eye on one.
you are an utter moron that does not understand the odds of a 'later' round QB doing shit, you dont bank your team's fate on a later round QB , they are mainly happy accidents
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:25 PM   #2918
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:26 PM   #2919
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I agree with your point. Too much to give up for someone who has done less with more natural ability than the QB we have. I don't care about being fair and I don't buy the trust them argument. Been there done that. 1 for 14 on 3rd down in an AFC Championship game is worse than........(insert Chiefs playoff QB here).

It's a short term fix but they are spending future capital. I don't like the trade.
Uh, sure. Absolutely, losing in over time of the nfccg in which you had zero to do with the play, is far worse than anything any chiefs qb has done since montana. great call. Chiefs fans would be jumping for joy just to make the playoffs come january, much less if they had a chance to go to the super bowl.
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:26 PM   #2920
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Keep telling yourself that.

In 1999, Tim Couch went #1 overall. So that argument is nothing but bullshit. One year after one of the most NFL ready QBs of all time went #1.

So please stop this hyperbole bullshit that talent evaluators in the NFL are strictly dropping Geno Smith down because of Andrew Luck.

It's an absurd argument.
Peyton Manning wasn't considered the surefire pick that Luck was.

You have to go back to '85 to find a draft that was viewed through the same prism as this one.

Imagine what Randall Cunningham could have been with a good offensive staff.

He was the first QB taken in '85, 37th overall.

Admittedly, the rest of that class was pure hot garbage.
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If we traded the top pick for Alex Smith, there would be a group of posters that would be just fine with it.
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:27 PM   #2922
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its 8.5 million for the 1st two......it will only go up from there, so actually if he is here year 3 it will be significantly more than 9 million per year (average). I was being conservative.
Unless he plays lights out, wins multiple playoff games, etc., it's hard to envision him as the starter in 2015.

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Flacco just won a ring and has brought his team to the playoffs EVERY SINGLE SEASON, including his rookie.

surely youre not saying a.smith = flacco? right?
I compared Smith's current to contract to Flacco's to illustrate the difference between an NFL starting QB's salary and a Franchise QB's salary.
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Or maybe Reid's just a ****ing idiot, how about that?
or maybe he is just a washed up coach, who went .500 in his last 120 games with decent talent, in a large market who got bounced to a small market cheap ass shit franchise who settles for stop gap QB and wasting the top 2 draft picks, the ONE season when they have the 1st overall pick after the worst season in history to try and sell tickets short term instead of WINNING long term, and resurrecting our glory.

oh wait


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or maybe he is just a washed up coach, who went .500 in his last 120 games with decent talent, in a large market who got bounced to a small market cheap ass shit franchise who settles for stop gap QB and wasting the top 2 draft picks, the ONE season when they have the 1st overall pick after the worst season in history
Are you not a fan of the Reid and Dorsey hires?
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:30 PM   #2925
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or maybe he is just a washed up coach, who went .500 in his last 120 games with decent talent, in a large market who got bounced to a small market cheap ass shit franchise who settles for stop gap QB and wasting the top 2 draft picks, the ONE season when they have the 1st overall pick after the worst season in history
.500 in his last 120 games?

Oh vey.
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