Funny Stuff New Conference re-alignment thread - Page 276

**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

kstater · 10-08-2011, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

Lol

Tv markets, can't you people get it through your heads

If you can point me to where I've said otherwise, go ahead. My post was referring to the ridiculous notion that "MU as a program is at least on par if not better than WVU".

eazyb81 · 10-08-2011, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

If you can point me to where I've said otherwise, go ahead. My post was referring to the ridiculous notion that "MU as a program is at least on par if not better than WVU".

Wait, so losing on the road to your team by 7 is the evidence that we don't compare to WVU as a program? Is that really your point today? Is KSU really that shitty that a loss to them impacts our program's prestige to such a degree?

kstater · 10-08-2011, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Wait, so losing on the road to your team by 7 is the evidence that we don't compare to WVU as a program? Is that really your point today?

My point remains the same as it was yesterday re:WVU. Wins, conference titles, BCS victories...

eazyb81 · 10-08-2011, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

My point remains the same as it was yesterday. Wins, conference titles, BCS victories...

So why are you posting this after the game, implying it is the evidence?

kstater · 10-08-2011, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

So why are you posting this after the game, implying it is the evidence?

So do you think sitting with the same record as KU, under .500, enhances MU's program as being on the same level as WVU?

Pablo · 10-08-2011, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

So do you think sitting with the same record as KU, under .500, enhances MU's program as being on the same level as WVU?

BIG TIME FOOTBALL.

eazyb81 · 10-08-2011, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

So do you think sitting with the same record as KU, under .500, enhances MU's program as being on the same level as WVU?

This is the first time Mizzou's had a losing record in seven years. Yeah it sucks but a couple games doesn't impact an entire program. Florida State lost to Wake today and has been pretty meh for almost a decade now, yet their program is still viewed as big-time.

Stewie · 10-08-2011, 05:39 PM

MU is stuck. They think they have some sort of power. They don't. The SEC doesn't want them and the Big XII could care less about their antics.

Pants · 10-08-2011, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

MU is stuck. They think they have some sort of power. They don't. The SEC doesn't want them and the Big XII could care less about their antics.

Do you know something we don't?

Stop your antics, man.

Pablo · 10-08-2011, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

This is the first time Mizzou's had a losing record in seven years. Yeah it sucks but a couple games doesn't impact an entire program. Florida State lost to Wake today and has been pretty meh for almost a decade now, yet their program is still viewed as big-time.

Florida State also won a couple of NC's in the 90's.

|Zach| · 10-08-2011, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

I hope MU is stuck. They think they have some sort of power. They don't. The SEC doesn't want them and the Big XII could care less about their antics. I hope.

Heh

Pablo · 10-08-2011, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

MU is stuck. They think they have some sort of power. They don't. The SEC doesn't want them and the Big XII could care less about their antics.

That sure is a lot of hoping.

ArrowheadMagic · 10-08-2011, 08:45 PM

Too bad the OU vs Baja Oklahoma game wasnt on the LHN, both viwers would have cancelled their subscriptions.

**alnorth** · 10-08-2011, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

MU is stuck. They think they have some sort of power. They don't. The SEC doesn't want them and the Big XII could care less about their antics.

Yeah, right. I can see it now:

Slive: Good news, it was close, but I got all but 2 schools to informally accept you. I wont tell you who voted no, but those 2 schools will vote yes for appearances sake so that the press release will say it is unanimous!

Deaton: Great! You know, we're the newcomers here, so we won't make waves. I don't want to know who voted no, we're just looking forward to being solid contributing members of the SEC!

Slive: excellent, and we're looking forward to getting higher rates from our enlarged footprint when we negotiate new TV contracts. By the way: more good news, your cross-divisional rival will be Arkansas!

Deaton: Sweet!

Slive: so all we have to do now is to get the paperwork in order, we'll have the vote tomorrow, and we're all set. We're ahead of schedule today and I have nothing else to do, so... why, hell why don't we both sit down and watch some football? I think your Tigers are playing a ranked team and its probably after halftime so we can see the end, right?

Deaton: Oh, you don't really...

Slive: no, it will be fun, lets see... ABC? Its Kansas State, right? hahaha, how lame, purple is such a stupid color and I seem to remember they have always been a cute little wannabe team who never can win the big game, this ought to be fun, I bet Mizzou is up by 2 TD's already.

Deaton: no seriously, heh heh... no, you are just humoring me right? Isn't there a 4-star restaurant we can go to, to toast our new partnership?

Slive: Ahh, here it is.... wait, you are losing? How can this be? Oh my, your quarterback looked like crap in that last play.

*2 hours later*

Slive: wow, that was...

Deaton: So, Monday morning is it? We'll call the press conference and

Slive: yeah... Monday? sure, I gotta go back to Birmingham.

Deaton: Everything's still good to go, right? I mean hell, that was just one game

Slive: to K-State... yeah, just one game, no problem. We'll be in touch. *whispers to assistant* (get me a meeting with Oliver Luck, tomorrow, highest priority!) See ya, Deaton!

That is not going to happen. One game is irrelevant, either Mizzou has the votes, or they dont, and neither a blowout win nor a humiliating loss today would make a difference.

eazyb81 · 10-09-2011, 10:32 AM

Air Force turns down Big 12 for Big East in football, and will join Mo Valley for all other sports. Looks like Navy and Army may follow them.

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_19073868

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But Air Force will do what's right for Air Force, even if it means turning its back on old friends.

Jerks!

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $2616966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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