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Old 12-16-2012, 09:06 AM   #1
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That first Donner Superman film is hilarious in all the wrong ways. I love Reeve in the part, but there's too much that I don't like for any of the actors to save the thing.

I like Superman II a WHOLE lot more. The Donner cut especially.

All the rest of them are abysmal. Superman IV was fun for me when I was a little kid. I was 7 when that came out and it was great. As I got older, the movie revealed itself. I can't even watch it as a joke anymore.

Man of Steel has me excited.
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:13 PM   #2
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:15 PM   #3
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I was 8 when I first saw Superman in theaters. It was pretty magical for an 8 year old. All depends on your frame of reference. For an older kid or adult, it was probably corny.
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:19 PM   #4
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I was 8 when I first saw Superman in theaters. It was pretty magical for an 8 year old. All depends on your frame of reference. For an older kid or adult, it was probably corny.
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I remember not liking the goofiness of Lex but the movie as a whole was awesome for me as an 8 year old. Personally, I still like it today even though it is ultimately campy as all hel.
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:21 PM   #5
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Even as a kid, I didn't understand Ned Beatty's character. I had read Superman comics, and I never really remembered a comedy relief guy like that in the stories.
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Old 12-16-2012, 01:37 PM   #6
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Even as a kid, I didn't understand Ned Beatty's character. I had read Superman comics, and I never really remembered a comedy relief guy like that in the stories.
Never, ever in the original comics and graphic novels, nor Perrine as Luthor's girlfriend.
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Old 12-16-2012, 01:42 PM   #7
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Yea, I'd love to know the thought process behind the Beatty character and why they felt the need to make him so stupid.

I'm guessing they probably felt they needed comedy relief with kiddie appeal.
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:00 PM   #8
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Yea, I'd love to know the thought process behind the Beatty character and why they felt the need to make him so stupid.

I'm guessing they probably felt they needed comedy relief with kiddie appeal.
They didn't know you can have a serious movie and still have a little comic relief back then. They overloaded on the comic relief.
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They didn't know you can have a serious movie and still have a little comic relief back then. They overloaded on the comic relief.
They overloaded on character development at the cost of plot and story line.
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They overloaded on character development at the cost of plot and story line.
I'll take character over plot any day.

This is not the problem with the original Superman film.
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I'll take character over plot any day.

This is not the problem with the original Superman film.
Really?

Luthor's plan is to buy up land in Arizona and then blast it with nuclear bombs so he can sell it for a profit. You don't see plot holes there? I see holes big enough to pass Jupiter through unscathed.
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They didn't know you can have a serious movie and still have a little comic relief back then. They overloaded on the comic relief.
Well, if I remember right, it was the first big budget superhero film, so they were sort of blazing a trail. Different era and obviously wouldn't work in today's film world.
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Well, if I remember right, it was the first big budget superhero film, so they were sort of blazing a trail. Different era and obviously wouldn't work in today's film world.
I think the Bat-Man movie was release before Superman. But, to your, point, that's a campy movie as well. That's what audiences expected from comic book/superhero stories.
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I think the Bat-Man movie was release before Superman. But, to your, point, that's a campy movie as well. That's what audiences expected from comic book/superhero stories.
Batman came out like a decade after the first Supes movie.
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I think the Bat-Man movie was release before Superman. But, to your, point, that's a campy movie as well. That's what audiences expected from comic book/superhero stories.
I think you nailed it. I expected Superman to be more serious and handled with forethought. Instead I got a water down version of an Adam West
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