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08-07-2013, 01:39 PM | #31 |
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I more meant the aspect of his "world view" that the first thought he has regarding something like this is people will inherently go from being grateful to bitchily demanding something as if it is a right. Never accused him of anything you suggest. Sorry if unclear.
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He lost me at "vilify people in need..." I feel like that's the kind of thing you tend to argue when you're at the front of an unruly mob, as opposed to when you're actually trying to substantively discuss something. So yeah, your comment about decision-making from emotion strikes pretty true there. I'm not exactly sure where fan4ever vilified anybody, but when one has a soapbox and the majority behind him, he tends to get rolling and generally stop making sense.
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Anyway, I just think you and a couple of others reacted negatively to a guy who didn't say anything that deserved it.
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And while we're throwing out broad historical claims that are virtually impossible to back up without writing a term paper, I'd counter with most people who have made a substantially positive impact on the people around them operate on the assumption he's wrong.
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In the end, this is dangerously close to taking a DC turn, but I will say that the unfortunate truth is that he's largely correct. Many places in the world can't have this technology precisely because humans lack the nobility to allow it to serve its intended purposes (like I said, warlords and armed guards). And getting beyond that, you sure have a sunny outlook on humanity if you think that people gratefully accept a routine charity and never start to shift their baselines. I'm sorry, but I think his concern is a real one. History tells us that people simply lack the capacity for long-term gratitude. Charity becomes right extremely quickly.
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"Teach a man to fish", so to speak. Again, at the risk of steering this thing directly into DC, take a look at the difference in people that are on foodstamps now who complain about the stigma of food stamps and demand they get cards that look like credit cards, vs. the people that were initially grateful for any assistance they could get. It doesn't take more than a generation or so for kindness to become right.
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In fact, my very first comment was that this thing is really cool and could be put to great use in a ton of different places. But that doesn't mean you should just ignore the potential downside of it. He made an interesting point, one that surely seems rooted in human nature, and you jumped his ass for it. That seems worth calling out.
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