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Old 08-01-2009, 03:13 AM   #1
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How can he do it in his sleep? He has 15 career starts in the NFL and College.
It's an innate ability. Some guys have it, some don't. Jake Plummer was great at it. So was Montana. Green sucked balls throwing on the run.
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Old 08-01-2009, 03:16 AM   #2
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It's an innate ability. Some guys have it, some don't. Jake Plummer was great at it. So was Montana. Green sucked balls throwing on the run.
Cassel can throw on the "trot".
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Old 08-01-2009, 03:16 AM   #3
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Cassel can throw on the "trot".
What the **** is that supposed to mean? The dude has wheels.
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Old 08-01-2009, 03:18 AM   #4
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What the **** is that supposed to mean? The dude has wheels.
It means there's a difference between running and doing the "Quarterback Pocket Escape-Trot".
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Old 08-01-2009, 03:20 AM   #5
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It means there's a difference between running and doing the "Quarterback Pocket Escape-Trot".
The guy had 60 yards rushing in ONE game. Saying he trots is ignorant.
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Old 08-01-2009, 03:22 AM   #6
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The guy had 60 yards rushing in ONE game. Saying he trots is ignorant.
Jesus ****ing Christ, you.

Let me put it like this, and hopefully you will finally understand the ****ing difference:

Pocket Mobility, Chiefs-Style:

Gannon was a runner.

Elvis was a trotter.
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Old 08-01-2009, 03:23 AM   #7
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Jesus ****ing Christ, you.

Let me put it like this, and hopefully you will finally understand the ****ing difference:

Pocket Mobility, Chiefs-Style:

Gannon was a runner.

Elvis was a trotter.
Cassel is more mobile than Grbac was.

No question.
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Old 08-01-2009, 05:31 AM   #8
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Jesus ****ing Christ, you.

Let me put it like this, and hopefully you will finally understand the ****ing difference:

Pocket Mobility, Chiefs-Style:

Gannon was a runner.

Elvis was a trotter.
No.

Vick was a runner.

Gannon was a passer who was very good at running.
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Old 08-01-2009, 03:26 AM   #9
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It's an innate ability. Some guys have it, some don't. Jake Plummer was great at it. So was Montana. Green sucked balls throwing on the run.
Innate ability or someone to throw to? Plummer was much better throwing on the run when he had talented WR's in Denver. Montana had much more success sliding in the pocket and completing passes to Rice, Taylor and Jones than Lake Dawson and Keith Cash.

Before coronating Cassell as the second coming I would see how he performs with a below average OL, running game and receivers.

Moss' size and speed covers up a lot of mistakes. As does the hoodies system.
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Old 08-01-2009, 03:28 AM   #10
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Innate ability or someone to throw to? Plummer was much better throwing on the run when he had talented WR's in Denver. Montana had much more success sliding in the pocket and completing passes to Rice, Taylor and Jones than Lake Dawson and Keith Cash.
No no no...that's complete garbage.

Plummer threw well on the run in Arizona. Montana threw well on the run in Kansas City.

Green sucked balls, even WITH Tony Gonzalez. His balls took nosedives half the time when he tried to throw on the run.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the receiver. Nothing at all.
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Old 08-01-2009, 03:42 AM   #11
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No no no...that's complete garbage.

Plummer threw well on the run in Arizona. Montana threw well on the run in Kansas City.

Green sucked balls, even WITH Tony Gonzalez. His balls took nosedives half the time when he tried to throw on the run.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the receiver. Nothing at all.
Plummer and Montana might have thrown well on the run with both teams. Their ability didn't change with their uniforms.

However, their circumstances did. With the Cards and Chiefs Plummer and Montana had less time before they had to run, less time to run and less options when they did.

With nothing more than 15 games of experience, (College and Pros), let us see how he performs driving a Yugo vs. a Ferrarri.

Keep in mind that the last year Offense he lead (?) broke the record the prior year in too many categories for me to look up now. The Offense he is stepping into was .... well... offensive.

He needs someone to throw to, someone to block for him and someone to divert the attention on the pass game. He has none. He doesn't even have a RB that can protect the QB.
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Old 08-01-2009, 03:46 AM   #12
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Plummer and Montana might have thrown well on the run with both teams. Their ability didn't change with their uniforms.
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Neither will Cassel's. You don't seem to get it. He throws well on the run. When he's running, the ball comes out with velocity and accuracy. He could be throwing to a cheerleader. It would be irrelevant. He would hit the bitch in stride.
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Neither will Cassel's. You don't seem to get it. He throws well on the run. When he's running, the ball comes out with velocity and accuracy. He could be throwing to a cheerleader. It would be irrelevant. He would hit the bitch in stride.
I do get it. There is less velocity and accuracy required in an offense that broke almost every record the prior year.

He will be throwing to Bowe, Cottam and Engram. He will have Johnson covering his blind side. How many games do you think he will really last?

It is a team sport. If I were a betting man I would lay money that Cassell will become the next Scott Mitchell before he becomes the next Brett Favre.
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I do get it. There is less velocity and accuracy required in an offense that broke almost every record the prior year.






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