Should Bartee start over Wesley?

[RedThat]

Do any of you think this would be the right move?

Too be honest, I watch Wesley play, and I'm quite disappointed. I think he's
the most overhyped, overrated safety to play in Kansas City. Im not impressed with his game at all. He doesnt HIT! Possibly that has to do with part of the reason he plays with no fire. Somebody needs to place fuel and light a flame under this guys a**, if Gun can't do it, he simply needs to be benched.

I just don't like the fact that he doesn't hit. Also, he misses too many tackles, and looks lost at times in coverage.

*We could use a new remedy at FS, perhaps Bartee?

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by WisChief

Maybe he is athletic and all of that, but he always looks lost and confused and dare I say, scared of being on the field. I don't know though - what could it hurt to give him a shot these last two games?

Exactly. They should start him for 2 pre-season games. Just to see how he plays at that position. I don't think it'll hurt the team.

[Mr. Laz]

playing corner and safety are completely different positions


one is primarily with your back to the ball ... something bartee sucks at


one is facing the ball/quarterback ... bartee seems to be better at that


give him a shot


strong safety to free safety is also a significant change

strong safety is more linebacker, free safety is more coverage


i don't know why everyone thought that switching from SS to FS would be so easy for Wesley.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Laz

playing corner and safety are completely different positions


one is primarily with your back to the ball ... something bartee sucks at


one is facing the ball/quarterback ... bartee seems to be better at that


give him a shot


strong safety to free safety is also a significant change

strong safety is more linebacker, free safety is more coverage


i don't know why everyone thought that switching from SS to FS would be so easy for Wesley.

OK, so a lot of people want to try Bartee as the FS, when he is the backup SS at this particular point in time.

Wouldn't he then just have the same transition issues, then?

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by jspchief

How often do you see phrases like "too much athleticism" and "god-given athletic potential" when talking about William Bartee?

It's almost comical. I remember last year we were clamoring to get Bartee in for McCleon. As usual, Bartee sucked. I'm amazed at how many times us Chiefs fans will allow ourselves to be duped into wanting Bartee on the field.

I think we need to trade Bartee while his stock is high.

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by beer me

Wesley should fear for not only his job but his spot on the roster imo. He hasn't made a hit since his rookie season... and he actually acted schocked that we signed another saftey in the off season. Nice way to respond to competition.

Signing Sammy Knight seems like a good move now for the Chiefs. A smart move. I can't imagine having Wesley and Woods as our safety tandem again. Those guys were horrible last year. And just to even think, signing Sammy Knight didn't sit well with him, amazes me. Wesley got a fat contract, and makes bold statements, like, "I'm not a backup safety", well then play like a starting safety Greg! You sure aint playing like a starting safety. Then the guy presents off-field problems. Getting charged for disorderly conduct is not a good idea Greg!

*Not only does the guy produce suckage on the field, he needs an adjustment in attitude, or else he should be gone. I agree with you beer me Wesley should definately fear his spot on the roster. All of this stuff with Wesley spells no good.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I think we need to trade Bartee while his stock is high.

Yeah.
I bet the Eagles would be willing to part with Buckhalter!

[Kyle401]

Wesley needs all the reps he can get in preseason to try to work out the switch from SS to FS. Putting Bartee in his place would leave us with 2 guys who sort of know how to play the position.

Willie Pile may be our best FS.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by SideWinder

OK, so a lot of people want to try Bartee as the FS, when he is the backup SS at this particular point in time.

Wouldn't he then just have the same transition issues, then?

personally i think Free safety is Bartee's natural position ... alwasy should of been.

i don't know why bartee is listed as a strong safety


he's a cornerback who plays better FACING the ball


that says free safety to me


the chiefs have screwed it up from day 1


they drafted him too high ... they switch him back to cornerback when oklahoma had "apparently" come to the conclusion that safety was a better spot.

and now "maybe" they are going too far and moving him to strong safety instead of free safety.




of course it could just be a listing mistake by the website ... i don't see how they could look at bartee and think strong safety. Maybe they want him to learn both?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Kyle401

Wesley needs all the reps he can get in preseason to try to work out the switch from SS to FS. Putting Bartee in his place would leave us with 2 guys who sort of know how to play the position.

Willie Pile may be our best FS.

Pile being our best FS might not be a bad thing.

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by Laz

playing corner and safety are completely different positions


one is primarily with your back to the ball ... something bartee sucks at


one is facing the ball/quarterback ... bartee seems to be better at that


give him a shot


strong safety to free safety is also a significant change

strong safety is more linebacker, free safety is more coverage


i don't know why everyone thought that switching from SS to FS would be so easy for Wesley.

I agree. Bartee seems to be better at facing the ball/quarterback. I say give him a shot too. It won't hurt us. Our secondary is solid, with Surtain, Warfield, and Knight. Starting Bartee won't make us worse, could potentially possibly make us better.

[WisChief]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Pile being our best FS might not be a bad thing.

Has he even played this year? Have I completely missed him??

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Pile being our best FS might not be a bad thing.

we are running out of time to find out who are best FS is

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Laz

we are running out of time to find out who are best FS is

That is definitely true.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Laz

personally i think Free safety is Bartee's natural position ... alwasy should of been.

i don't know why bartee is listed as a strong safety


he's a cornerback who plays better FACING the ball


that says free safety to me


the chiefs have screwed it up from day 1


they drafted him too high ... they switch him back to cornerback when oklahoma had "apparently" come to the conclusion that safety was a better spot.

and now "maybe" they are going too far and moving him to strong safety instead of free safety.




of course it could just be a listing mistake by the website ... i don't see how they could look at bartee and think strong safety. Maybe they want him to learn both?

I thought Bartee played SS in the first PS game?

If the depth chart is correct, then the fact remains, you would be asking Bartee to switch from one position, that he just switched to.

I've never been as down on Bartee as most have, but I just think this would be more than his wee little mind could handle.

[RedThat]

Folks,

at the very least, I think a lot of us around here don't expect Bartee to be a pro-bowler, but rather servicable. For him to be servicable, is good enough. We have 3 solid starters back there in Surtain, Warfield, and Knight. Even if Bartee is servicable, that'll help strengthen and solidfy our secondary big time.

*Wesley isn't even servicable imo