News RIP Steve Jobs

**AustinChief** · 10-05-2011, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock

I'm not excusing it in any way. It was wrong. But it was also over 30 years ago, and the person to whom it happened remained his friend.

What I'm saying is that you don't know him. I don't know him. It seems wrong to judge a person like that when you don't know them.

Actually no he didn't... Woz has stated on many occasions that they were never truly friends.

yes I didn't know him... but I'm pretty sure I'm safe in my judgement.

I still don't get why anyone is defending this guy... I highly doubt you'd be defending anyone else.

Silock · 10-05-2011, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

Actually no he didn't... Woz has stated on many occasions that they were never truly friends.

yes I didn't know him... but I'm pretty sure I'm safe in my judgement.

I still don't get why anyone is defending this guy... I highly doubt you'd be defending anyone else.

He said they weren't close friends, but he didn't say they weren't friends.

In any case, I'm not defending him so much as being an agnostic about it. You don't know, and neither do I.

All I see is that an extremely intelligent and talented individual died in a really shitty way. That sucks. I'm not losing any sleep over it. My portfolio might be losing some value because of it, though >.<

Chiefspants · 10-05-2011, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

Actually no he didn't... Woz has stated on many occasions that they were never truly friends.

yes I didn't know him... but I'm pretty sure I'm safe in my judgement.

I still don't get why anyone is defending this guy... I highly doubt you'd be defending anyone else.

Where did you conjure that idea? I have always read that Jobs and Wozniak were close.

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Originally Posted by Steve Wozniak

"I chat with Steve Jobs now and then, from time to time... We have never had an argument, we have always been friends. We are not close friends like we once were spending every day together."

**AustinChief** · 10-05-2011, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Where did you conjure that idea? I have always read that Jobs and Wozniak were close.

Oh I don't know.. from quotes by WOZ himself... having read two biographies on him.. and writing a book report on one of them back in 6th grade

Here is a quote from Woz just this year...

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“We talk occasionally on the phone. But we are definitely not friends.”

**dirk digler** · 10-05-2011, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

Oh I don't know.. from quotes by WOZ himself... having read two biographies on him.. and writing a book report on one of them back in 6th grade

Here is a quote from Woz just this year...

I am listening to Woz on CNN right now and he is comparing him to Martin Luther King etc... Nothing but praise and love for Steve.

**kysirsoze** · 10-05-2011, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I am listening to Woz on CNN right now and he is comparing him to Martin Luther King etc... Nothing but praise and love for Steve.

Did you expect him to blast Jobs on the day he died? I don't know (and don't care) if they were friends or enemies, but I imagine Steve W.'s response would be similar either way.

**dirk digler** · 10-05-2011, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

Did you expect him to blast Jobs on the day he died? I don't know (and don't care) if they were friends or enemies, but I imagine Steve W.'s response would be similar either way.

The way Austin described their relationship I wasn't expecting him to say he was like Martin Luther King or John Lennon

**AustinChief** · 10-05-2011, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

The way Austin described their relationship I wasn't expecting him to say he was like Martin Luther King or John Lennon

Woz is an extremely nice guy.. very forgiving and generous... doesn't surprise me at all.

Chiefspants · 10-05-2011, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

Oh I don't know.. from quotes by WOZ himself... having read two biographies on him.. and writing a book report on one of them back in 6th grade

Here is a quote from Woz just this year...

Woz seems to have made conflicting statements on the matter, as my quote from Woz was taken from this year as well.

**AustinChief** · 10-05-2011, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Woz seems to have made conflicting quotes on this issue, as my quote from Woz was taken from this year as well.

yeah, it depends on when you catch him... but if you have followed him as much as I have... it's pretty clear they weren't friends as most people would define the word.

The_Doctor10 · 10-06-2011, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

yeah, it depends on when you catch him... but if you have followed him as much as I have... it's pretty clear they weren't friends as most people would define the word.

Whatever their relationship, Woz is worth at least a hundred mill. So maybe he and steve werent best mates, but the partnership was clearly beneficial to both of them.

And frankly, I don't understand why you're just coming to shit on the guy when he's down. I know you 'don't like to speak ill of the dead' but you went and did it anyway.

Who gives a damn if he wasn't a nice guy? Especially in the last ten years, he's been the most influential man in the world of technology. He re-built a dying company by learning from his mistakes, and turned it into the biggest company in the world.

Take a day off; what are the odds your precious Android ever gets developed if Apple never bothers to get into the phone game?

**AustinChief** · 10-06-2011, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Unleash_the_Phury

Whatever their relationship, Woz is worth at least a hundred mill. So maybe he and steve werent best mates, but the partnership was clearly beneficial to both of them.

And frankly, I don't understand why you're just coming to shit on the guy when he's down. I know you 'don't like to speak ill of the dead' but you went and did it anyway.

Who gives a damn if he wasn't a nice guy? Especially in the last ten years, he's been the most influential man in the world of technology. He re-built a dying company by learning from his mistakes, and turned it into the biggest company in the world.

Take a day off; what are the odds your precious Android ever gets developed if Apple never bothers to get into the phone game?

He was more than not a nice guy.. he was a thieving prick. (there is simply no excuse for letting your "friend" do ALL the work on a project then stealing $2000 from him) I didn't want to say anything but the constant BULLSHIT about how great he was became too much to bear. Yes he was influential... but from EVERYTHING I have seen over the years...he was a bad human being. He wasn't Hitler bad or anything, just not a good person. People are acting like Mother Teresa died.

And yet again you are clueless in calling me an Android fanboy. I use Android, WebOS, Windows 7 and Linux all on a daily basis... I would drop Android in a heartbeat if something better came along. I'm not tied into some ****ing technology CULT.