LB's senario : 4 options, you choose...

ROYC75 · 12:11 PM

You choose the players in all 4 options that you think will make the team.

With the addition of Bell, Johnson and the latest phenom Grigsby, we now have 10 LB's on the current roster. Barring any June 1st cuts or PU's thru FA, choose the 4 options in order.You must figure to keep 7 LB's for the coming roster.With the current issues of injuries to Barber and Maz ( although I expect one or both not to play ) the LB's positions seem to be a contested one in TC.

This is a overall view of what the planeteers think will be if certain options unfold.

Current LB's on roster are, Bell,Barber,Maz,Caver,Fox,Fujita,Johnson,Mitchell,Grigsby, and Scanlon. Choose your starter and backups by position.

Option # 1 Must include Barber
ROLB ...
MLB ...
LOLB ...

Option # 2 Must include Maz
ROLB ...
MLB ...
LOLB ...

Option # 3 Must include both Maz and Barber
ROLB ...
MLB ...
LOLB ...

Option # 4 Neither Barber or Maz is on active roster.
ROLB ...
MLB ...
LOLB ...

King_Chief_Fan · 04-26-2005, 10:56 AM

option 4 it is.
Maz and Barber are walking wounded....thank them for their contribution and send them on their way.

Mr. Laz · 04-26-2005, 11:05 AM

i don't know about all this "must choose" crap

but right now you have to go with most potiential

1. Johnson,Bell,Fox

top phyically potiential group

2. (my personal favorite) johnson,grigsby,Bell

all 3 are outstanding athletic guys and have tremendous potiential.
Bell has shown himself a good pass rusher from the outside.
Johnson is great at working in space and chasing stuff down.
Grigsby is the blue collar,insane MLB i like to have

but this is all based on "hope" and potiential

but we've see negatives from other players already:

fujita is too much finesse for me
barber is ok ... but i've seen nothing explosive about his play
mitchell seems to have the football instincts of a ground squirrel
maz will always be limited by his lack of speed

Chiefnj · 04-26-2005, 11:11 AM

I'm hoping Barber is healthy. He's not nearly as bad as people make him out to be. He was a star in Philly with some talent around. He played well in KC even though half the time he had a busted hand and wore wrapping that looked like a 16oz boxing glove on it.

You need at least one LB with experience in the scheme and who is not adjusting to a new position. I'd like to see Johnson, Bell and Barber.

Zach · 04-26-2005, 11:20 AM

I am of the feeling that each linebacker must earn their spot. I as big a Boomer fan as any, growing up with him, but if he doesn't earn his spot he shouldn't be awarded the job. Same with DJ. If for some reason he can't beat out Scott Fujita, then he doesn't deserve to start. With all that being said, I'd hope DJ lives up to potential and takes Fujita's spot as I feel Fujita is a vastly over-rated linebacker. Bell will start because of his contract, but also the fact that he will be the most talented. The other spot is open to Barber, Fox, & Mitchell and I would expect to see Fox there by the time the regular season opens as Barber won't be ready and Mitchell couldn't fight his way out of a paper sack.

I feel that when everyone is healthy our LB situation might become somewhat of a strength as we would be two, potentially three, deep at every spot.

Sam: DJ, Fujita
Mike: Bell, Boomer, Maz, Scanlon
Will: Barber, Fox, Mitchell

The nice thing is, Bell, Boomer, and Mitchell can play all three spots which provides flexibility in Nickle and Dime situations.

Mr. Laz · 04-26-2005, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Zach

The nice thing is, Bell, Boomer, and Mitchell can play all three spots which provides flexibility in Nickle and Dime situations.

fujita slid over to MLB in passing situations last year as well

King_Chief_Fan · 04-26-2005, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zach

I am of the feeling that each linebacker must earn their spot. I as big a Boomer fan as any, growing up with him, but if he doesn't earn his spot he shouldn't be awarded the job. Same with DJ. If for some reason he can't beat out Scott Fujita, then he doesn't deserve to start. With all that being said, I'd hope DJ lives up to potential and takes Fujita's spot as I feel Fujita is a vastly over-rated linebacker. Bell will start because of his contract, but also the fact that he will be the most talented. The other spot is open to Barber, Fox, & Mitchell and I would expect to see Fox there by the time the regular season opens as Barber won't be ready and Mitchell couldn't fight his way out of a paper sack.

I feel that when everyone is healthy our LB situation might become somewhat of a strength as we would be two, potentially three, deep at every spot.

Sam: DJ, Fujita
Mike: Bell, Boomer, Maz, Scanlon
Will: Barber, Fox, Mitchell

The nice thing is, Bell, Boomer, and Mitchell can play all three spots which provides flexibility in Nickle and Dime situations.

How much Dickie factor gets put in as far as earning a position? You know he prefers not to play rookies.

ct · 04-26-2005, 11:33 AM

1. Option # 1 Must include Barber I think he will be on the roster.
ROLB ...DJ, Barber
MLB ...Bell, Mitchell, Grigsby
LOLB ...Fujita, Fox

2. Option # 2 Must include Maz Unlikely
ROLB ...DJ, Fox
MLB ...Bell, Maz, Grigsby
LOLB ...Fujita, Mitchell

3. Option # 4 Neither Barber or Maz is on active roster. Very Unlikely!!
ROLB ...DJ, Caver
MLB ...Bell, Mitchell, Grigsby
LOLB ...Fujita, Fox

4. Option # 3 Must include both Maz and Barber - No way!
ROLB ...DJ, Barber
MLB ...Bell, Mitchell, Maz
LOLB ...Fujita, Fox

teedubya · 04-26-2005, 11:35 AM

bye maz... thanks for the memories.

We will be paying him cash for a long time due to the injury.

Hoover · 04-26-2005, 11:35 AM

PEOPLE MAZ IS DONE

DeepSouth · 04-26-2005, 11:36 AM

Starters;

olb - DJ
mlb - Mitchell
olb - Bell

Backups
olb - Fujita, Fox
mlb - Boomer, Scanlon

Kyle401 · 04-26-2005, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover

PEOPLE MAZ IS DONE

Maybe, but it would be a lot of fun to see Maz and Boomer playing together on special teams this year. I hope he can make it back.

ROYC75 · 04-26-2005, 11:39 AM

I was looking for your thoughts along this line.

I'm thinking Caver will be cut...... but who knows.

Option # 1 Must include Barber
ROLB ...Barber,Fox
MLB ...Bell,Mitchell,Scanlon ( Until Grigsby proves otherwise)
LOLB ...Fujita,Johnson

Option # 2 Must include Maz
ROLB ...Johnson,Fox
MLB ...Bell, Maz,Scanlon ( Until Grigsby proves otherwise)
LOLB ...Fujita,Mitchell

Option # 3 Must include both Maz and Barber
ROLB ...Barber,Fox
MLB ...Bell,Maz,Mitchell
LOLB ...Fujita, Johnson

Option # 4 Neither Barber or Maz is on active roster.
ROLB ... Johnson,Caver ( maybe Grigsby )
MLB ... Bell, Mitchell,Scanlon ( Until Grigsby proves otherwise)
LOLB ...Fujita,Fox

In all likelyhood, I see it coming down to these options. I do believe that Maz is history.

I do see Johnson as a starter ASAP.

Otter · 04-26-2005, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj

I'm hoping Barber is healthy. He's not nearly as bad as people make him out to be. He was a star in Philly with some talent around. He played well in KC even though half the time he had a busted hand and wore wrapping that looked like a 16oz boxing glove on it.

You need at least one LB with experience in the scheme and who is not adjusting to a new position. I'd like to see Johnson, Bell and Barber.

This reflects my feelings as well.

yoswif · 04-26-2005, 11:55 AM

I don't think Barber or Maz will make a Chief's 53 man roster again. Football is a replacement business and like all Chiefs, someone will take their place.

Since Bell hasn't played a 4-3 in the pros, any of the three LB positions is going to be new to him. I think Bell's "game" is closer to Chad Brown's than other MLBs that left Pittsburg. Like Brown, Bell would be an extremely effective blitzer at ROLB and form a great partnership with RDE Jared Allen, imo.

Mitchell's late season play earn's him a chance to make Chiefs management look competent for using a second round pick on him. Management rarely passes up an opportunity to look competent. Mitchell returning at MLB in his Dec '04' form is preferable to new starters at every position, imo.

If DJ uses his tremendous athletic ability and football instincts to carry out his assignments with the greatest proficiency possible instead of free lancing, he'll make a lot of big plays and create a lot of big play opportunities for his teammates. If he starts free lancing, he'll be standing on the sideline listening to a lecture about discipline, responsibilty, and team play. I think he's smart enough to figure out that team play will earn him and a lot of his teammates a lot of pro bowl votes.

04-26-2005, 10:54 AM
ROYC75 Time For Your Wake Up Call !!! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Barn Yard Casino cash: $5639400	LB's senario : 4 options, you choose... You choose the players in all 4 options that you think will make the team. With the addition of Bell, Johnson and the latest phenom Grigsby, we now have 10 LB's on the current roster. Barring any June 1st cuts or PU's thru FA, choose the 4 options in order.You must figure to keep 7 LB's for the coming roster.With the current issues of injuries to Barber and Maz ( although I expect one or both not to play ) the LB's positions seem to be a contested one in TC. This is a overall view of what the planeteers think will be if certain options unfold. Current LB's on roster are, Bell,Barber,Maz,Caver,Fox,Fujita,Johnson,Mitchell,Grigsby, and Scanlon. Choose your starter and backups by position. Option # 1 Must include Barber ROLB ... MLB ... LOLB ... Option # 2 Must include Maz ROLB ... MLB ... LOLB ... Option # 3 Must include both Maz and Barber ROLB ... MLB ... LOLB ... Option # 4 Neither Barber or Maz is on active roster. ROLB ... MLB ... LOLB ... Last edited by ROYC75; 04-26-2005 at 12:11 PM..
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04-26-2005, 10:56 AM	#2
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04-26-2005, 11:05 AM	#3
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	i don't know about all this "must choose" crap but right now you have to go with most potiential 1. Johnson,Bell,Fox top phyically potiential group 2. (my personal favorite) johnson,grigsby,Bell all 3 are outstanding athletic guys and have tremendous potiential. Bell has shown himself a good pass rusher from the outside. Johnson is great at working in space and chasing stuff down. Grigsby is the blue collar,insane MLB i like to have but this is all based on "hope" and potiential but we've see negatives from other players already: fujita is too much finesse for me barber is ok ... but i've seen nothing explosive about his play mitchell seems to have the football instincts of a ground squirrel maz will always be limited by his lack of speed __________________
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Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	I'm hoping Barber is healthy. He's not nearly as bad as people make him out to be. He was a star in Philly with some talent around. He played well in KC even though half the time he had a busted hand and wore wrapping that looked like a 16oz boxing glove on it. You need at least one LB with experience in the scheme and who is not adjusting to a new position. I'd like to see Johnson, Bell and Barber. __________________ "I always tell (the assistant coaches), 'Make it simple, 'cause I'm stupid,'" Edwards said. "This ain't computer football." Herm Edwards, 3-20-07 Q: Herm, back on December 25th you were asked if Trent Green was your starter going into next season and you said, ‘yeah, why wouldn’t he be?’ Have you changed your mind on that? EDWARDS: No, I have not.” (1-11-07)
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04-26-2005, 11:20 AM	#5
Zach Rookie Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: IL Casino cash: $10004900	I am of the feeling that each linebacker must earn their spot. I as big a Boomer fan as any, growing up with him, but if he doesn't earn his spot he shouldn't be awarded the job. Same with DJ. If for some reason he can't beat out Scott Fujita, then he doesn't deserve to start. With all that being said, I'd hope DJ lives up to potential and takes Fujita's spot as I feel Fujita is a vastly over-rated linebacker. Bell will start because of his contract, but also the fact that he will be the most talented. The other spot is open to Barber, Fox, & Mitchell and I would expect to see Fox there by the time the regular season opens as Barber won't be ready and Mitchell couldn't fight his way out of a paper sack. I feel that when everyone is healthy our LB situation might become somewhat of a strength as we would be two, potentially three, deep at every spot. Sam: DJ, Fujita Mike: Bell, Boomer, Maz, Scanlon Will: Barber, Fox, Mitchell The nice thing is, Bell, Boomer, and Mitchell can play all three spots which provides flexibility in Nickle and Dime situations.
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ct u b illian Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: DooDah Casino cash: $10009436	1. Option # 1 Must include Barber I think he will be on the roster. ROLB ...DJ, Barber MLB ...Bell, Mitchell, Grigsby LOLB ...Fujita, Fox 2. Option # 2 Must include Maz Unlikely ROLB ...DJ, Fox MLB ...Bell, Maz, Grigsby LOLB ...Fujita, Mitchell 3. Option # 4 Neither Barber or Maz is on active roster. Very Unlikely!! ROLB ...DJ, Caver MLB ...Bell, Mitchell, Grigsby LOLB ...Fujita, Fox 4. Option # 3 Must include both Maz and Barber - No way! ROLB ...DJ, Barber MLB ...Bell, Mitchell, Maz LOLB ...Fujita, Fox
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04-26-2005, 11:35 AM	#9
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04-26-2005, 11:39 AM	#13
ROYC75 Time For Your Wake Up Call !!! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Barn Yard Casino cash: $5639400	I was looking for your thoughts along this line. I'm thinking Caver will be cut...... but who knows. Option # 1 Must include Barber ROLB ...Barber,Fox MLB ...Bell,Mitchell,Scanlon ( Until Grigsby proves otherwise) LOLB ...Fujita,Johnson Option # 2 Must include Maz ROLB ...Johnson,Fox MLB ...Bell, Maz,Scanlon ( Until Grigsby proves otherwise) LOLB ...Fujita,Mitchell Option # 3 Must include both Maz and Barber ROLB ...Barber,Fox MLB ...Bell,Maz,Mitchell LOLB ...Fujita, Johnson Option # 4 Neither Barber or Maz is on active roster. ROLB ... Johnson,Caver ( maybe Grigsby ) MLB ... Bell, Mitchell,Scanlon ( Until Grigsby proves otherwise) LOLB ...Fujita,Fox In all likelyhood, I see it coming down to these options. I do believe that Maz is history. I do see Johnson as a starter ASAP. __________________ Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it. John Lennon Last edited by ROYC75; 04-26-2005 at 11:45 AM..
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04-26-2005, 11:55 AM	#15
yoswif Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	I don't think Barber or Maz will make a Chief's 53 man roster again. Football is a replacement business and like all Chiefs, someone will take their place. Since Bell hasn't played a 4-3 in the pros, any of the three LB positions is going to be new to him. I think Bell's "game" is closer to Chad Brown's than other MLBs that left Pittsburg. Like Brown, Bell would be an extremely effective blitzer at ROLB and form a great partnership with RDE Jared Allen, imo. Mitchell's late season play earn's him a chance to make Chiefs management look competent for using a second round pick on him. Management rarely passes up an opportunity to look competent. Mitchell returning at MLB in his Dec '04' form is preferable to new starters at every position, imo. If DJ uses his tremendous athletic ability and football instincts to carry out his assignments with the greatest proficiency possible instead of free lancing, he'll make a lot of big plays and create a lot of big play opportunities for his teammates. If he starts free lancing, he'll be standing on the sideline listening to a lecture about discipline, responsibilty, and team play. I think he's smart enough to figure out that team play will earn him and a lot of his teammates a lot of pro bowl votes.
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