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Old 01-27-2009, 11:35 PM  
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GALVESTON, Texas – Jurors wept Tuesday watching a woman describe how teaching her 2-year-old daughter proper manners turned into a daylong torture session in which the toddler was beaten with belts, dunked in cold water and flung across a room so violently that she died.
Kimberly Trenor, 20, detailed the abuse in a videotaped statement played for jurors during the first day of her capital murder trial.

Trenor, 20, told investigators in the statement that she hit her daughter with a thick leather belt to teach her to say "please" and "yes, sir."

The little victim was dubbed "Baby Grace" by investigators who worked to identify her decomposed remains after the body was found in a plastic container in October 2007 on a tiny island in Galveston Bay.

Trenor's 25-year-old husband, Royce Zeigler II, is to be tried separately on murder charges. His attorney argues that Trenor is responsible for the child's death.

But Trenor insisted it was her husband who became so enraged when the toddler didn't behave better that he hurled her several times across a room, ultimately fracturing her skull and killing her.

"I said we have to get her to a hospital. (Zeigler) said, 'No we can't. We'll go to jail,'" Trenor said in the videotape, crying. "There came a point where she stopped breathing. He started doing CPR on the floor. He took her ... and handed her over to me. I could just feel her going cold."

At the defense table, Trenor's eyes teared up as she watched the videotape on a large screen. Several jurors wiped away tears.


Riley Ann Sawyers tried to stop her mother and stepfather from beating her to death by reaching out to her mother and saying, "I love you," assistant district attorney Kayla Allen told jurors earlier in the day during her opening statement.

The toddler's pleas didn't stop her mother from brutalizing her, the prosecutor said.

Allen said that on July 25, 2007, Trenor and Zeigler disciplined Riley by whipping her with a belt, pushing her head against a pillow and holding her head under water. She said Zeigler tossed Riley across the room, fracturing her skull. An autopsy concluded the fractures caused her death.
Allen said the adults did nothing to help even as Riley lay dying.
Instead, the couple bought a plastic container, stuffed Riley's body inside and stored it in a shed for a month or two before setting it out to sea, the prosecutor said.

Defense attorney Tommy Stickler Jr. told the jury that Trenor never intended to kill her daughter and that things just "spun out of control."
Stickler portrayed Trenor as a scared 19-year-old girl who had moved to Texas from Ohio to marry a man she met while playing an online game. She said Riley's father, her former boyfriend, had assaulted her and Zeigler was her "knight in shining armor."

"I don't want to use the word accident, but this wasn't something that was intentional," Stickler said.

Trenor could receive an automatic sentence of life in prison without parole if convicted of capital murder. The jury could also convict her of a lesser charge.

Prosecutors declined to seek the death penalty because they didn't think they could prove that either one would be a future danger, as required.

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Old 01-28-2009, 12:59 AM   #31
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:04 AM   #32
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I shouldn't have tagged that on to your post. I will however look at this because now my curiosity is fully up.

And I'm not talking about across the board murder. I'm talking about parents killing their young children.

We're gonna' find out. You wanted the best, and you got the best; I am on this ****ing case until it's done. It's too late to start tonight, but I'll hit it tomorrow at work.
I've been looking for nearly an hour, and I've found things that go both ways, but nothing solid other than the fact that DC, Arizona, Nevada, and Atlanta seem to always be at or near the top of lists that vary wildly.
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:04 AM   #33
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:05 AM   #34
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them damned hillbillies!
Now that you mention that, I do believe I've heard Ohio referred to as "Northern Kentucky" before.
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:07 AM   #35
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somehow it seemed ****ed up to edit the dupe to that, though. especially in this thread.
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:08 AM   #36
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Now that you mention that, I do believe I've heard Ohio referred to as "Northern Kentucky" before.
Ahem......Kentucky isn't as backwards as some portray it.

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Old 01-28-2009, 01:16 AM   #37
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Ahem......Kentucky isn't as backwards as some portray it.

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The south isn't as backward as some portray it.

It's just like saying everyone from California is dumb blond surfer.

Or that every black man from D.C. is a murderer.

Or that everyone from New Jersey is the guy from "my new haircut" " Yaga Bombs, and Heineken"

Or that every one from Nebraska is a corn farmer.

are there some Marlboro Chiefs there...Yes of course, but you usually have to drive down a dirt road to find them, and there are just as many in Missouri.
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:17 AM   #38
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And Ohio isn't much different from Kentucky at all.
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:20 AM   #39
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The south isn't as backward as some portray it.

It's just like saying everyone from California is dumb blond surfer.

Or that every black man from D.C. is a murderer.

Or that everyone from New Jersey is the guy from "my new haircut" " Yaga Bombs, and Heineken"

Or that every one from Nebraska is a corn farmer.

are there some Marlboro Chiefs there...Yes of course, but you usually have to drive down a dirt road to find them, and there are just as many in Missouri.
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:22 AM   #40
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Funny thing is, there is more corn grown in Iowa than Nebraska. Most of western NE is ranch land, it's too dry there to grow corn.
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:26 AM   #41
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Funny thing is, there is more corn grown in Iowa than Nebraska. Most of western NE is ranch land, it's too dry there to grow corn.
I thought Nebraska was primarily wheat and soy.
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:28 AM   #42
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Oklahoma used to be a major wheat producer the same as Kansas, but I think both states are growing more soy now than wheat.
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:30 AM   #43
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Nope. When you live within a 500 mile radius of Arrowhead, you get the Civilized Society Protection Mojo at no additional charge.

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Yeah. OK.

There's no way in hell you can tell me this place is not full of rednecks, hillbillys or what have you.

1400 people. 97.5% white

Median income per household $17,500. Just enough to buy a trailer. And the state is full of towns just like this one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licking,_Missouri
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:31 AM   #44
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I thought Nebraska was primarily wheat and soy.
Lots of soybeans too, it's either that or corn in eastern NE. I've heard they grow wheat in this state but I have no idea where, I sure as hell never see any.
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Yeah. OK.

There's no way in hell you can tell me this place is not full of rednecks, hillbillys or what have you.

1400 people. 97.5% white

Median income per household $17,500. Just enough to buy a trailer. And the state is full of towns just like this one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licking,_Missouri
LOL, I've been to places in southern MO that are straight out of Deliverance.
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