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Old 12-19-2011, 10:54 AM  
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The playcalling difference...
The difference in playcalling yesterday compared to the entire season if not the last 3 seasons was just ****ing mind bottling! Not 1,2,3, but 4 screens in one game? TE's being hit over the middle for more than 3 yards? No Dex up the middle for -2?

Ok, so, was this really because of Orton who had practiced really all of one week? Or was this because Haley was not there to chain down Muir on the playcalling?

Don't get me wrong, I am not here to sell Muir as a good OC. But JFC...we were a totally different team all the way around? How does this happen in less than a week? How does a team that couldn't get a first down to save their life suddenly go to punting onl twice the entire game with 0 turnovers and 0 sacks?

Obviously Orton brings a lot to that situation but it was the non-passing plays that stuck out the most. Particularly the lack of running Mighty Mouse 1.5 up the middle constantly for not.

I think Haley was a damper on this offense. When Muir and Zorn can take the same roster of backups and retirees with a QB that has been practing for all of a few days and turnout the performance we saw against The Pack then yu have to say that either Orton was football God's gift to the Chiefs or Muir and Zorn were finally able to call an offense that would actually produce.
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:56 AM   #46
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They tweaked the offense, no question.

Orton showed everyone just how pathetic Cassel was under center.
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:57 AM   #47
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Orton showed everyone just how pathetic Cassel was under center.
People that don't realize this overdosed on their stupid pills.
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Old 12-19-2011, 12:00 PM   #48
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People that don't realize this overdosed on their stupid pills.
Mainlining black-tar reerun is more likely...
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Old 12-19-2011, 12:01 PM   #49
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I almost pissed my pants on that fake by orton to make charles woodson bite then he hit the next guy within the numbers. IDK what was up with trying back shoulder throws to our big recievers. Throw the damn thing high. Good game and fun non the less.
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Old 12-19-2011, 12:02 PM   #50
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bullshit

we didn't start ever drive with a drawplay, for one.

QB has nothing to do with that shit

McClain got the carries up the middle instead of DMC

QB has nothing to do with that

timing of the screen plays called has nothing to do with the QB

Pope being open by 15 yards ... twice!! was because of the unpredictability of the offense not the QB.
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Old 12-19-2011, 12:03 PM   #51
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Per usual, you prove yourself to be a ****ing moron.

If you cannot tell the biggest difference yesterday was QB play, then there is no hope for you to ever learn anything about this game. Ever.

So you think with Haley on the sideline the Chiefs would have won?
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Old 12-19-2011, 12:04 PM   #53
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Pope being open was because Orton is able to make reads and have time to find him. Cassel only looks one direction the throws to that person wildly or if it is a special occation would throw completely across his body in traffic.
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No, I meant "mind bottling". It's from a Will Ferrel movie you obviously haven't seen.
Blades of Glory?
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Old 12-19-2011, 12:04 PM   #55
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So you think with Haley on the sideline the Chiefs would have won?
Of course not...he would have started Palko.

What does that have to do with anything?
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Old 12-19-2011, 12:05 PM   #56
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So you think with Haley on the sideline the Chiefs would have won?
It makes one wonder if he would have opened up the play calling with ol' Orton...

But he insisted on trotting Palko out there for four games, so he blew that opportunity. Thus, we'll never know...
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Pope being open was because Orton is able to make reads and have time to find him. Cassel only looks one direction the throws to that person wildly or if it is a special occation would throw completely across his body in traffic.
The utter truth!
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I'm pretty sure McClain had more carries and throws to him in this game than he has all season. They definitely used Dex differently than Haley did.

Plus, how many times did they target Bowe?
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I'm pretty sure McClain had more carries and throws to him in this game than he has all season. They definitely used Dex differently than Haley did.

Plus, how many times did they target Bowe?
Again, they ran the SAME screen in the Minnesota game. Cassel never even looked to that side of the field...
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