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Old 02-27-2013, 12:45 PM  
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Old 09-16-2013, 09:52 PM   #3871
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I don't think he could win a shoot out in the playoffs. It's completely against his grain.
He DID win a shoot out in the playoffs, against the Saints. Haven't you been paying attention?

Seriously, you are the second person in this thread today to say that he can't do something he has actually already done.
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Old 09-16-2013, 09:53 PM   #3872
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Are you suggesting that the SOS of those games were easier than compared to other QBs? It would be really amusing if you were.
No*, I just don't see how it proves your original point when you bolded/underlined what I said about how winning makes a QB elite... I said elite QBs can beat the big boys when it matters (and for the sake of cherry picking one playoff game, I did say 2nd round and beyond, and let's add "relatively consistently"). I also said good QBs can put up elite numbers at times, but can't consistently win when it matters.

Winning a bunch of regular season games over the course of a season and a half doesn't prove he's elite, and neither does winning a first round playoff game. For that time period, he actually fits my definition of a good QB.


*granted, the combined NFCW/NFCE in 2011 had one winning team besides SF, and they were 9-7... and I believe he only beat one team in 2011 or 2012 that made it past the first round of the playoffs in the same year... I hadn't really considered it.
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Old 09-16-2013, 09:56 PM   #3873
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He DID win a shoot out in the playoffs, against the Saints. Haven't you been paying attention?

Seriously, you are the second person in this thread today to say that he can't do something he has actually already done.
so because it happened once its sure to happen again?
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Old 09-16-2013, 09:56 PM   #3874
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Let's just keep glossing over how bad the saints d was that year.
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Old 09-16-2013, 09:59 PM   #3875
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Let's just keep glossing over how bad the saints d was that year.
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Old 09-16-2013, 10:02 PM   #3876
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Old 09-16-2013, 10:05 PM   #3877
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Old 09-16-2013, 10:06 PM   #3878
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He DID win a shoot out in the playoffs, against the Saints. Haven't you been paying attention?

Seriously, you are the second person in this thread today to say that he can't do something he has actually already done.
In KC?

No. No he hasn't.

We don't have the ****ing 49'ers defense.
We don't have their TE.
We aren't willing to run the football until the ****ing 4th quarter.

You have a sample size of ONE and he's now on a completely different team with a completely different HC...
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Old 09-16-2013, 10:07 PM   #3879
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so because it happened once its sure to happen again?
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You seem to have a problem with reading comprehension. He said, and I quote:

"I don't think he could win a shoot out in the playoffs. It's completely against his grain."

A shootout is completely against his grain, so he can't do it? HE DID IT.
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Old 09-16-2013, 10:08 PM   #3880
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In KC?

No. No he hasn't.

We don't have the ****ing 49'ers defense.
We don't have their TE.
We aren't willing to run the football until the ****ing 4th quarter.

You have a sample size of ONE and he's now on a completely different team with a completely different HC...
YOU SAID IT IS COMPLETELY AGAINST HIS GRAIN. But he did it. It was a stupid statement, and false.
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Old 09-16-2013, 10:10 PM   #3881
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23rd in stats and about 14 scoring defense.

Ironically, the Giants defense was worse, and won the super bowl.

So now we have to factor in how bad the defenses were and not factor in the fact that the Saints had the number one offense, and torched the 49ers defense, leaving the offense not once, but twice to be clutch?

Im not sure what the Saints defense has to do with this. The plays still had to be made right?

They weren't the worst defense in the league......
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In KC?

No. No he hasn't.

We don't have the ****ing 49'ers defense.
We don't have their TE.
We aren't willing to run the football until the ****ing 4th quarter.

You have a sample size of ONE and he's now on a completely different team with a completely different HC...
No, this one actually could end up statistically being BETTER.

And to be honest, if you are being honest with yourself, the Chiefs have about the best defense in the AFC, and whatever defense he faces in the playoffs, wont be nearly as good as the Chiefs is.
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Old 09-16-2013, 10:12 PM   #3883
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YOU SAID IT IS COMPLETELY AGAINST HIS GRAIN. But he did it. It was a stupid statement, and false.
No, it's not.

This is like expecting Derrick Blaylock to score 4 TD's every game because he did it ONE TIME.




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And to be honest, if you are being honest with yourself, the Chiefs have about the best defense in the AFC, and whatever defense he faces in the playoffs, wont be nearly as good as the Chiefs is.
I'm starting to think you suspect I'm less than honest...
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I'm starting to think you suspect I'm less than honest...
hmm. Figure of speech. But, from your statement one could assume that you don't think the Chiefs defense is as good as I seem to think it is.

They are giving up 9 points a game.

Your defense has been far more dominant than the 49ers defense of 2011 was. Yeah, the same defense that gave up 27 points to Dallas, that the Chiefs just held to 16.....

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