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In all of comics SM is the one character so powerful he might as well be God. That guy just doesn't interest me. He almost can't lose. To show him as a person, a human with weaknesses and imperfections, makes me want to watch. I know the SM purists hate it but I think it made the wider audience relate more to the character...
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The Hulk hasn't been a dumb giant for most of the last 30 years but that's how people expect him. I nit pick and find reasons to hate the Avengers Hulk but all in all they did a really good job. It's not about 30 or more years of comix continuity - it's about introducing these characters to a brand new audience with the "essence" of them being true do the stories. When Supes walked away from the drunks it seemed like a real sacrifice. When Supes threw that semi over a phone pole at the truck stop I cared. It had meaning. He knew he could rage out at any time but didn't. The idea of SM having resentment and anger over what he has to deal with isn't touched on outside the comix. The Mark Ruffalo Hulk was only ok until he said "I'm angry all the time." That changes him from a very black/white character to a more complex one. It frames that whole movie completely differently at that point. He could have raged out and bounced every character off the dirt at any point. It adds a deeper meaning that makes us care. It shows restraint. Morality.
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Destruction of Smallville with no attempt to take the fight away from civilians. The same in Metropolis. Killing Zod. Maybe some of these things can be redeemed in the sequel as Superman learns to be the hero he's supposed to be, but there's a lot of problems left by MoS. Nothing can fix the poor writing in the first one, but maybe it will just be... better. I don't know. Here's hoping, but I am highly skeptical. |
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Here is where he STARTS down his path towards what he already is in the Comix. In this film he is flawed and new and not the 30 years of BS time spent as a boy scout. He has lived in this world, knows it, and fights NOT to be a dark influence. He all but begs Zod not to be what he is before doing what he has to. THAT character, not some unchallenged morally superior avatar for god, makes him interesting as a character...
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Morally challenged is one thing. Morally compromised is another and he came awfully close to that in film 1. I can see we won't find much common ground here, but I do really hope the next one is good. I'd love to look forward to DC films the way I do to Marvel films these days.
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I'd love to share that opinion if not for the fact Disney is destroying the Marvel U to make them compatible with the Cinematic U.
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