The Official "Lost" the series discussion

[Deberg_1990]

I figured I would start a thread for this and see what happens....there seemed to be quite a few viewers on the board for this show the past few weeks.....I like the direction the show is taking so far......episode 3 tonight at 7 central on ABC....

[Red Brooklyn]

Good questions, Dane. While I certainly don't have any definative answers, here's my take on it:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

1. What is the "Light"??

The light is what we've known it to be for a long time. There are pockets of electro-magnetic energy and exotic matter on the island. This matter gives the island strange and fantastic properities. The light is another representation of that energy. Of course, 2000 years ago folks wouldn't know to call it electro-magnetic energy or exotic matter. They wouldn't understand the science of it. Just like we understand cell phones now, but if we dropped one back in time 2000 year it would seem pretty magical, even mystical to them.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

2. Why is it dangerous??

We've seen why it's dangerous. We've seen multiple examples of what it can do. Just look at the hatch. And that's only one tiny example.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

3. IF the MIB were to escape the island, why would everything "cease to exist"??

The energy needs to be contained. Smokey is a part of that energy, somehow. If the energy escapes, the world ends. I'm not sure exacly how, but I don't see why it matters. I don't understand the electrical wiring in my house, but I know the basic principle, I flip the switch and the light comes on. I accept that and it's good enough for me. How or why isn't as imporant to me as just knowing that it's true. Or perhaps it's like Jenga. You remove the wrong pivotal piece and the tower falls.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

4. Does the MIB KNOW that if he escapes, everything will "cease to exist" or is he only thinking of himself without considering the consequences??

I think he still sees himself as a man. I think he believes that he can leave and nothing bad with happen. He thinks all of it is a lie that Jacob and perhaps "Mother" made up to keep him on the island. So, no, I don't think he's considering the consequences. But he doesn't trust the people with the information, so who can really blame him?

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

5. Can the Smoke Monster be killed??

Yes.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

6. Why is Jacob allowed to freely come and go from the island to the rest of the world?

Why not? There's nothing binding him to the island but choice.

So, there you go. I'm not sure if I'm even remotely right about any of that, but... that's how I see things at this point. Maybe a rewatch of ATS and fruther revolations will change my mind.

[Red Brooklyn]

My previous post was 666. Heh.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn

Good questions, Dane. While I certainly don't have any definative answers, here's my take on it:

The light is what we've known it to be for a long time. There are pockets of electro-magnetic energy and dark matter on the island. This matter gives the island strange and fantastic properities.

Dark matter? Where did you get that idea?

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

IF the MIB was able to keep his identity intact after transforming into the The Smoke Monster, the producers have some explaining to do:

1. What is the "Light"?
2. Why is it dangerous?
3. IF the MIB were to escape the island, why would everything "cease to exist"?

1-3 were "answered".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mh6JCN6wQE

from 1:45 to the end. It's not a great answer, but I think it's all you're going to get.

[Red Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by KC Fish

Dark matter? Where did you get that idea?

Whoops!

My bad. I meant to write "exotic" matter. Chang references exotic matter in regards to the work being done at The Orchid.

I just typed the wrong thing. I was getting ahead of myself and mixed up "exotic matter" with "the darkness."

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn

Good questions, Dane. While I certainly don't have any definative answers, here's my take on it:

The light is what we've known it to be for a long time. There are pockets of electro-magnetic energy and exotic matter on the island. This matter gives the island strange and fantastic properities. The light is another representation of that energy. Of course, 2000 years ago folks wouldn't know to call it electro-magnetic energy or exotic matter. They wouldn't understand the science of it. Just like we understand cell phones now, but if we dropped one back in time 2000 year it would seem pretty magical, even mystical to them.

We've seen why it's dangerous. We've seen multiple examples of what it can do. Just look at the hatch. And that's only one tiny example.

Dude, no, that's not it.

Watch the clip that Chiefnj linked. The Mother clearly states that "a little bit of this light" exists in ALL men. She also states that men will try to take it but if they try, the light could go out everywhere.

We aren't made of electromagnetic energy.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

1-3 were "answered".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mh6JCN6wQE

from 1:45 to the end. It's not a great answer, but I think it's all you're going to get.

If that's all we get, I'm going to be hugely disappointed.

[Red Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Dude, no, that's not it.

Watch the clip that Chiefnj linked. The Mother clearly states that "a little bit of this light" exists in ALL men. She also states that men will try to take it but if they try, the light could go out everywhere.

We aren't made of electromagnetic energy.

Yeah, I know what she said. But that's what I meant by saying she doesn't fully understand the science of it. Perhaps she thinks it's more magical, or atherial, or mystical than it really is.

Perhaps she thinks she knows what it is, that it's part of every man (probably because of her own exposure to/ experience with it), but I don't think she fully understands what it is. It has amazing properties, and it can be manipulated and perverted by men. She fears that men will try to harness it for themselves or use the properties for evil. This is the same thing Ben feared Widmore wanted with the island.

Again, I'm not saying I'm 100% right about this. I was just offering up one way of looking at it. Either way, I think the point is - this "light" is something special, some unique property and unleashing/uncorking it is bad.

Sort of like crossing the streams in Ghostbusters. Who gives a shit why it's bad. Egon said it's bad, so don't **** around with it!

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Dude, no, that's not it.

Watch the clip that Chiefnj linked. The Mother clearly states that "a little bit of this light" exists in ALL men. She also states that men will try to take it but if they try, the light could go out everywhere.

We aren't made of electromagnetic energy.

So, has anyone thought about the potential tie in here with Pulp Fiction and the soul of Marcellus Wallace?

[Red Brooklyn]

Awesome, Mile High.

Well played. I saw someone post that on another board and I thought it hilarious. I'm not sure if it's a conscious reference to Pulp Fiction or not. But it's awesome either way.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn

Awesome, Mile High.

Well played. I saw someone post that on another board and I thought it hilarious. I'm not sure if it's a conscious reference to Pulp Fiction or not. But it's awesome either way.

Dammit .... you did? I thought I was having an original thought.

[Red Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Dammit .... you did? I thought I was having an original thought.

Sorry, man. I didn't mean to harsh your buzz.

But technically, it's still your original thought. You didn't read it elsewhere... so... you just had it around the same time as someone else.

And, regardless, it's still awesome.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn

Sorry, man. I didn't mean to harsh your buzz.

But technically, it's still your original thought. You didn't read it elsewhere... so... you just had it around the same time as someone else.

And, regardless, it's still awesome.

Thanks...

[Red Brooklyn]

I saw this on another board as well, and thought it was interesting, to say the least:

"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith

According to myth, she was Adam's first wife. Got kicked out of the garden and had to live in a cave, after Angels chased her to 'the middle of the sea'. In some folklore, including Roman, she's a witch or a demon, but she's since been redeemed as a modern feminist icon, for defying God and Adam. In her more evil incarnations, she steals and/or kills children. She's said to live in a parallel world. in Jewish folklore, she's tasked with preserving God's 'first light', from when He created the Universe."

[Deberg_1990]

heh..i havent seen this latest episode...but it seems alot of people are pissed off about it. Heres a funny tweet i just read:


We no longer say 'Jumped the shark.' Now we say 'Floated into the cave of urine and turned into smoke.'