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Old 04-17-2013, 05:39 PM  
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Branden Albert trade won’t happen unless he lowers his price

Branden Albert trade won’t happen unless he lowers his price
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 21, 2013, 6:46 PM EDT
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The much-discussed potential trade of Branden Albert from the Chiefs to the Dolphins doesn’t appear likely at the price Albert is currently seeking.

Although the Chiefs and Dolphins can probably agree on compensation — the Dolphins sending a second-round pick to Kansas City — the hangup is that Albert wants the kind of money that the Dolphins aren’t willing to spend. Specifically, according to Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports, Albert wants between $8 million and $9 million a year on a long-term deal.

In other words, Albert is looking for the same kind of contract that left tackle Jake Long got from the Rams — the very contract the Dolphins wouldn’t give Long, which is why he left Miami for St. Louis.

If the Dolphins weren’t willing to pay Long that kind of money, it’s hard to see why they’d be willing to give up a second-round draft pick for the privilege of paying Albert that kind of money. So the Dolphins may need to look elsewhere for a left tackle. And Albert may have to settle for playing this season for the Chiefs, making $9.8 million, and hitting free agency next year.

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Old 04-25-2013, 12:02 PM   #4996
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Boy, I think he's better than McCluster.

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Old 04-25-2013, 12:09 PM   #4997
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Why do people love Dion Jordan as a pass rusher? I understand he looks the part, but how is a guy with 5 sacks and who is 3rd on his own team in tackles for a loss a can't miss pass rusher worthy of a top 5 pick? He's tied at #23 in the PAC-12 for sacks. Nationally, he's not in the top 80. How is this guy a fantastic pass rush prospect?
He's so insanely athletic, the Ducks asked him to drop back into coverage something like 50% of the time.

Don't quote me on that, but he dropped into coverage a ton.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:10 PM   #4998
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So you are judging Dion Jordan on stats now?

Why don't you judge Geno Smith on stats?
I'm asking why Jordan is regarded as a top pass rusher when he wasn't a great pass rusher in college. I'm asking why a pass rusher with 5 sacks is considered a top 5 draft pick. From youtube clips, he looks athletic and all but it wasn't like he faced top LTs and/or was double teamed every play.

PS: I have judged Smith on stats. His stats show that Tavon Austin inflated his numbers taking throws behind the LOS 10 yards upfield time and time again.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:10 PM   #4999
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Boy, I think he's better than McCluster.

Maybe I'm wrong there.
He is, but you're not Andy Reid.

Andy Reid is high as a kite on McCluster.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:11 PM   #5000
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:11 PM   #5001
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He's so insanely athletic, the Ducks asked him to drop back into coverage something like 50% of the time.

Don't quote me on that, but he dropped into coverage a ton.
Sounds a bit like Aaron Curry.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:13 PM   #5002
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Sounds a bit like Aaron Curry.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:13 PM   #5003
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:14 PM   #5004
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:22 PM   #5005
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Good athlete, good movement. Would be drafted very high on coaches perceived ability to coach him up to being a better pass rusher. Curry wasn't asked to rush the passer in college, but because of his athleticism people thought he could in the NFL. Jordan rushed more, but still hasn't put up good numbers because he was asked to drop back and do other things.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:29 PM   #5006
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Good athlete, good movement. Would be drafted very high on coaches perceived ability to coach him up to being a better pass rusher. Curry wasn't asked to rush the passer in college, but because of his athleticism people thought he could in the NFL. Jordan rushed more, but still hasn't put up good numbers because he was asked to drop back and do other things.
Curry was a nice athlete who was thought to be solid in every respect. Not a high ceiling necessarily, but a very high floor. Jordan is a freak. Very long, very fast. If he adds 20 lbs and maintains his speed, look out. But, to your point, there's a level of projection going on with him. That's just the nature of this draft.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:30 PM   #5007
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I'm asking why Jordan is regarded as a top pass rusher when he wasn't a great pass rusher in college. I'm asking why a pass rusher with 5 sacks is considered a top 5 draft pick. From youtube clips, he looks athletic and all but it wasn't like he faced top LTs and/or was double teamed every play.

PS: I have judged Smith on stats. His stats show that Tavon Austin inflated his numbers taking throws behind the LOS 10 yards upfield time and time again.
Because he rushed the passer something like 75% less than Jarvis Jones but had similar production from a per-attempt standpoint. His sack rate is actually really, really high, because he rarely rushed the passer. He's outstanding in coverage and was essentially a nickel back on some plays.

When he DID rush the passer, he was extremely effective, but the sheer numbers aren't there in the total column to wow people.

You like that? I just regurgitated a ton of shit I've heard. Welcome to draft week!
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Because he rushed the passer something like 75% less than Jarvis Jones but had similar production from a per-attempt standpoint. His sack rate is actually really, really high, because he rarely rushed the passer. He's outstanding in coverage and was essentially a nickel back on some plays.

When he DID rush the passer, he was extremely effective, but the sheer numbers aren't there in the total column to wow people.

You like that? I just regurgitated a ton of shit I've heard. Welcome to draft week!
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Buht sursly, we trade Albert yet?...
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Buht sursly, we trade Albert yet?...
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