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Old 09-20-2011, 01:50 PM  
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War Room by Michael Holley

Dude followed three teams last year: Pats, Falcons, and Chiefs:

"Sports commentator and bestselling author Michael Holley will follow three NFL teams from training camp 2010, through the Super Bowl, and into the April draft, providing a new look at Belichick’s influence, which has now spread from the Patriots to other teams, particularly the KC Chiefs and the Atlanta Falcons."

Apparently, Weis was entirely in charge of the offensive calls in the playoff game, and Haley couldn't make any changes. (This bit is from 810, and the quotation is from the link.)

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Old 09-20-2011, 02:39 PM   #46
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the fact that this kind of friction even exists in year 2 of a new regime is a ding on Pioli....he brought these people in, he's responsible for creating an environment where they can succeed...
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Old 09-20-2011, 02:40 PM   #47
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Weis should have been forced on Haley, because Weis did a much better job than Haley.

2009 - major suckage.
2010 - Cassel looks okay.
2011 - back to failure.

If Haley was handcuffed at the end of last year in an unreasonable manner, then he should have quit.
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Old 09-20-2011, 02:42 PM   #48
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the fact that this kind of friction even exists in year 2 of a new regime is a ding on Pioli....he brought these people in, he's responsible for creating an environment where they can succeed...
Yeah, after this makes its way around the league, the Oakland job is going to look good compared to ours.
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Old 09-20-2011, 02:42 PM   #49
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looks like we can put this to bed


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@ChiefsandOsFan Interesting. There's no reference in the book of Pioli telling Haley that Weis was calling the plays.
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Old 09-20-2011, 02:43 PM   #50
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NO coach can win big games with Cassel.

This also likely means Pioli put Weis and Crennel in place, too...not "the hc picks his assistants" we were lead to believe.

I bet Haley gets another hc job next year if he is fired this year
I remember several people getting raked over the coals for having the gall to suggest that Haley didn't choose Weis and Crennel.
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Old 09-20-2011, 02:43 PM   #51
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Weis should have been forced on Haley, because Weis did a much better job than Haley.

2009 - major suckage.
2010 - Cassel looks okay.
2011 - back to failure.

If Haley was handcuffed at the end of last year in an unreasonable manner, then he should have quit.
I took it to mean Haley had no input into the playoff game only. Based on this stuff and the other article, it sounds like Haley might deserve a lot more credit than Weis did. Purely speculation obviously.
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Old 09-20-2011, 02:45 PM   #52
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What's a little interesting is that the Mike Silver article suggested that Pioli was trash talking Haley off the record. Why do that? Just fire him -- unless Clark said no, and you were looking for ammo...

This is a crazy situation. If I had to pick one of them to stay, I'd pick Haley. Pioli bet on Cassel and lost. If he can't evaluate a QB he was around forever in NE, you gotta question his ability.
It's too bad GM's don't have probationary periods. In a vacuum, Pioli should have been shitcanned as soon as he put Tyson Jackson's name on the card.
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Old 09-20-2011, 02:50 PM   #53
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looks like we can put this to bed


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@ChiefsandOsFan Interesting. There's no reference in the book of Pioli telling Haley that Weis was calling the plays.
Why did KK go on and on about it? Of course, KK is a dimwit.
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Old 09-20-2011, 02:53 PM   #54
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@ChiefsandOsFan Interesting. There's no reference in the book of Pioli telling Haley that Weis was calling the plays.
LOL

but people will still scream about it...
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Old 09-20-2011, 02:57 PM   #55
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Damn, they just flashed something about the last two weeks in the NFL.

Week 1 broke the record for passing yards in a week for the league as a whole.

And meanwhile, we are stuck with a POS that broke another record for passing in week 1...

I have no doubt that Haley is a damn good coach and that Matt ****ing Cassel is gonna probably get him fired.

Next year we will hire Josh McDaniels as the coach and keep Cassel while selling the #1 pick to the highest bidder.

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Old 09-20-2011, 03:00 PM   #56
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I really think that Haley is going to be a very good HC in this league. Sadly I do not think it will be with us.

Another thing I am going to hate is the fact that Pioli will be given all sorts of credit if/when he picks Luck, and our teams fortunes turn around. He will have done nothing close to it, but will get too much credit.
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If this shit is true about Pioli, he can kick rocks and get the **** out. Keep Haley, dump Cassel, and let's go
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Old 09-20-2011, 03:02 PM   #58
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Another thing I am going to hate is the fact that Pioli will be given all sorts of credit if/when he picks Luck, and our teams fortunes turn around. He will have done nothing close to it, but will get too much credit.
I honestly don't give a **** as long as he picks Luck.
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I can't believe people think Haley is a good head coach. Did you happen to watch tv this year? There's a team in red and yellow that is completely unprepared taking the field.
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It's too bad GM's don't have probationary periods. In a vacuum, Pioli should have been shitcanned as soon as he put Tyson Jackson's name on the card.
In retrospect, the Cassel deal was far worse than taking Jackson at 3.
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